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Best software sequencer fit to Oasys?

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:43 pm
by kenackr
All of my previous sequencing was done in Vision & Studio Vision on a Mac. As I'm getting back into music and just bought an O88 a month ago, I want to have a Sequencer with a larger screen and more capabilities than the O has.

I'm also going to be creating my own music beds for video work I'm doing, so the sequencer should be equally at home with FCP Studio.

My first thought has been Logic Studio, but I've read here about problems with it playing nice with the O.

In reading a recent reveiw of the current sequencers on Tweakheadz lab, It concluded that Logic 8 was the one to get for Mac.

So I'm looking for real user feedback on sequencer compatibility with the O AND ease of use (or intuitiveness) for that sequencer AND compatibilty with FCP. A comparison to logic gets you a shiny gold star!

Ken

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:52 pm
by milkojnr
Hi,

Logic Studio files load straight into FCP 2. Which is a bit help.

It has loads of plug-ins and instruments ready to go. And it is now so cheap. i still don't get why Apple don't have a bundle with FCP and Logic Studio together.

But a lot of studios around the world use Protools be it HD or LE. So it is great to be able to take your files in and out of different studios with the Protools gear.

I am a playeer so I like the Protools sequencer, but I lot of people don't and love the Logic Studio one better.

You can buy the DV Tool kit for Protools and load your Protools files into FCP using OMF or AFF but Logic Studio would be your best option for working with FCP.

You will still need a good sound card to go with Logic Studio so buy the Protools Digi003 Rack and then you have Protools software anyway.

Just my cents worth....

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:48 pm
by MartinHines
Given all of the current software DAW products (Sonar, Logic, Cubase, DP, ProTools) have very similar functionality I doubt any one of them would be "better" to interface with the OASYS.

Given your situation I would suggest Logic Studio 8. Also, I believe Daz (one of this forum's owners) uses Logic, so you can probably ask him some questions if you run into any problems.

Here are some resources that might help you:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=21331

Note in that list that Korg has a Logic environment for OASYS

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:50 pm
by kenackr
I didn't realize a separate sound card was required for logic. I was not going to use any of the sounds of the instruments that come with logic.

I do have Midi In & Out from the MAC and I also have a PCI audiocard to be able to import or export audio from the mac.

I am resurrecting my old studio and have about a dozen synths & sound modules to produce the sounds I want, plus guitars, drums, etc. I also have all the outboard gear for mixing, FX, and mastering too.

So will Logic 8 run without a sound card?

All I'm really interested in is the sequencer.

Ken

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:58 pm
by MartinHines
kenackr wrote:I didn't realize a separate sound card was required for logic. I was not going to use any of the sounds of the instruments that come with logic.

I do have Midi In & Out from the MAC and I also have a PCI audiocard to be able to import or export audio from the mac.
Are you saying that you have a "PCI audiocard" installed in your mac or on another computer?

Given the new Intel-based Macs must have some type of onboard audio, a separate PRO audio interface is probably not required, but would help in reducing audio latency. I see the Logic studio specs state:
PCI Express, ExpressCard/34, USB, or FireWire based audio interface recommended
http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/logicpro/specs.html

I am not a Mac guy at all, but I think you will want to have the ability to record audio into your Mac given software instruments (and all the free stuff in Logic Studio) has progressed alot since the days of Opcode Studio Vision.

Given all of the other external modules you mention, I assume you must have some type of external mixer. Therefore you might consider something like the Apogee Duet (2-channel input):
http://www.sweetwater.com/c683--Apogee- ... Interfaces

If you really liked it, you could easily sell it on eBay and buy the Apogee Ensemble (with alot more audio inputs and outputs).

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:26 am
by kenackr
Martin,

I have a Delta 66 PCI card in my G4 . It does a great job with audio in & outs to the MAC - very clean, but it isn't compatible with the Mac Pro because that is now PCI express. So I may have to upgrade to firewire if I upgrade the computer.

My mixer is a 24 ch Soundcraft Studio model with tape returns, busses, etc.

In past projects, I captured midi to Vision and recorded live instruments to my 16 ch Fostex D160 HDR with a SMPTE stripe. The only time I used audio on Studio Vision was for vocals in case they went off pitch and I imagine I'll do the same again.

I'm really not a fan of generating or mixing audio within a computer. I like to put it all thru a large surface external board. I guess I just like getting my hands on real knobs.

Thanks,

Ken

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:18 am
by MartinHines
Ken,

Given all of the new Mac have on-board audio including a digital audio input you could probably simply use that for Logic if you only plan to use Logic for midi.

Also you might want to consider Logic Express 8
http://www.roland.com/manuals/en/index. ... %2DX6#List