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What "Synth" to go with my OASYS?, any suggestions

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:31 pm
by AnthonyB
Hello,

I have a Triton Studio on top of my OASYS on a quik lok two-tier stand. However, I still like the Triton, but With the Oasys, and the power of it, and it being a workstation, I don't find "that much" use for the Triton as of late.

What I'm looking for is a Synthesizer (not a workstation), to go with my OASYS, but don't want a Synth that sounds too much like the LAC-1/AL-1/Mod-7 etc, as this would duplicate the situation!. Maybe some people would just have an OASYS and nothing else, but with the Triton not doing "much" nowadays I though a trade in for a Synth would be a good idea.

Type of music is just about anything really, but leaning towards "dreamscapes", hip-hop (not hard stuff though) 80's analogue sounds (Gary Newman/human league etc).

Thanks in advance for any help :)

AnthonyB

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:50 pm
by curvebender
Roland V-Synth XT or GT!

The sample mangling capabilities of these synths are awesome, and thanks to the dual D-Beams and the Time Trip Pad, it's also the most expressive synth out there.

A great complement to the wonders of the Oasys..

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:13 pm
by silverdragonsound
curvebender wrote:Roland V-Synth XT or GT!

The sample mangling capabilities of these synths are awesome, and thanks to the dual D-Beams and the Time Trip Pad, it's also the most expressive synth out there.

A great complement to the wonders of the Oasys..

+ 1 gazillion :wink:

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:58 pm
by Synthia
Hi Anthony,

Yeah,the V-Synth is a great partner for your OASYS.The V-Synth does different thing compare to the OASYS like the voice mangling stuff.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:23 pm
by Sina172
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:02 pm
by MrT-Man
What about the Virus TI? At least a couple of Oasys owners have one & have spoken highly of it (I think Mike C.'s got one?).

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:35 pm
by Mike Conway
Yep, I have one, as do quite a few OASYS owners. I also agree that the VSynth GT would be a great partner. Heck, just get those 3 and you'll be set! :D

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:41 am
by Sina172
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:13 am
by AnthonyB
Thanks For the replies, I will take a deeper look at the V-synth, but it's a bit more expensive that i thought at <1799> :shock:


-Ant

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:23 am
by Daz
How about a Radias ? :-)

Really ... it's got a different vibe to the Oasys, even if it's from the same stable. It's more hands-on for those impromptu sounds and the programmable arps and mod seqs are great fun. The Oasys is kinda grown up serious fire power, whereas the Radias is more light/fun. The Oasys impresses, the Radias entertains (forgive the sweeping generality)

Just a thought ...

Daz.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:56 am
by Mike Conway
AnthonyB wrote:Thanks For the replies, I will take a deeper look at the V-synth, but it's a bit more expensive that i thought at <1799> :shock:
For your budget, you may want to wait and compare the Virus Snow (the new mini desktop unit, being introduced at NAMM - price to be announced) or the Waldorf Blofeld, which is nicely priced.

Sina, OASYS is crazily modulatable, but you can get deep on a TI, especially with Multimode layers. Then there is the prospect of every part having all the effects it had in Program mode. I'm digging the Granular and Formant oscillators, too. I'm not comparing it to LAC and MOD-7, as much as supplementing them. The sounds are different.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:10 am
by Sina172
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:16 am
by curvebender
I owned a Virus TI Keyboard last year for a few months, before selling it together with other stuff to buy the Oasys.

It's not a bad synthesizer, but I was bored to death by the fact that 90 % of the presets were either trance/techno or special FX! Not many playable sounds in there..

Of course, you could program new sounds, but I was a bit dissapointed by the huge number of boring boring presets. (In my view, of course.)

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:02 am
by milkojnr
Access are going to release a new Virus TI at Namm next week. It is called a Virus TI Snow. It is a little desk top unit with all the Virus power, i think it could just sit on top of your Oasys.

i have Virus TI and love it. I have the desktop version

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:54 am
by Mike Conway
With my Virus C, I originally felt like Curvebender did. Then I started playing with it and downloading other soundsets, compiling my favorites. Having the "playable" sounds together in bank A made a huge difference. I sold it to partially pay for the OASYS, but I had an empty spot..... :(

I think that Keyboard Wizard's first 3 or 4 YouTube vids give you a nice taste of selections:

Demo 1

Demo 2

Demo 3

Sina172 wrote:my main concerns with the TI are the parameters and what their limitations are. Like if your creating a Dual Oscillator Program, can you combine a Formant Oscillator AND a Granular Oscillator and modulate them? Do you have individual LFO's per Oscillator, or do you have to share an LFO? Same question applies to the EG's. And what about the Filter Section? Can you combine different Filters and modulate them or are you limited to ONE Filter for BOTH Oscillators?


Like any synth, you should study it. Up to 16 simultaneous arps and 128 simultaneous FX can be running. (rev, del, cho, pha, fla, ring mod, EQ, dist X 16)

OSC 1 and OSC2 can have combinations of the following types:

Classic (Spectral Wave, Wave/Saw, Sawtooth, Saw/Pulse, Pulse)
Hypersaw (up to 9 saws and 9 subs)
Wavetable
Wave PWM
Grain Simple or Complex
Formant Simple or Complex

OS3 can be set to:

Slave
Saw
Pulse
Sine
Triangle
Choice of Spectral Wave

So, yeah you can mix 3 different oscs in one patch or use MULTI, like a Korg Combi, to layer sounds.

There are 3 LFOs, which also can use Waves for shapes.

Filters are very flexible with 2 types of Serial, Parallel and Split routings. Filter types are LP, HP, BP, BS (Band Stop), Analog 1,2,3 and 4 pole.

Filter Saturation types - Light, Soft, Middle, Hard, Digital, Wave Shaper, Rectifier, Bit Reducer, Rate Reducer, Rate and Follow, Lowpass, Low + Follow, Highpass, and High + Follow

Filters can be set to an offset or you can easily control them individually.

Where the TI suffers is in the oscillator high ranges and lack of a dedicated 3rd envelope. Though, you can route a wave to a one shot LFO, which can act as another envelope The OASYS' crystal clear highs and myriad of envelopes do make it a nice compliment to an otherwise different sound.

I'm in total agreement that the OASYS with its 3 VAs and MOD-7 is the monster between those two or any other synth. I also agree that the Vsynth GT is totally different animal and is very tempting.