Loading samples from CD?

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:04 am

I have a CD from GreytSounds that contains 9 partitions totaling about 500MB of samples in AKAI format. I'm trying to move some of those samples to the hard disk in the O.

I've read the manual on both loading and saving sounds but have not yet discovered how to make the transfer happen in any efficient way. I also read the manual on sampling, but did not see anything there that was directly applicable.

The O opens the CD and lets me get down to each individual sample. Because there is no program for them, I'm unable to audition them to hear what I want to transfer, unless I hold open an initialized program and cycle thru each one.

The Akai sample name does transfer upon load (I think) but then I can't find where it went! The little message box just flies by in a flash.

At this point, I'm wondering if anything can be transfered directly from CD to the hard drive?

Am I missing or over looking something?

Ken

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:03 am

In addition to single samples, you can load Akai Programs or entire Akai volumes.

For more info on this:

1. Go to the Disk Load page.
2. Press the HELP button.
3. Select the Page Menu Commands link.
4. Press the link for the Load Selected command.
5. Scroll to the bottom of the page.
6. Select the link lableled "Loading AKAI S1000/S3000 format Sample files, Program files, or Volumes."

Best regards,

Dan

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:25 pm

Dan,

Thanks for the tip off.

I did the load select as the prodecure says and saw the little box wizz by loading the samples.

The instructions say the samples get loaded into sample ram appended to the last sample.

The only way I could verify they were in there was to go into sampling mode and use the sample drop down list that showed they were loaded into sample slots 000-999. I was unable to find them by any other means.

What I was hoping was to be able to segregate the new samples into their own folder and save them with their own descriptive folder name like "Akai SFX" or "Akai Fairlight", etc.

Based on what I just read in the parameter guide there seems no way to that, is there?

Ken

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:10 pm

Ok, I found out that while not described in the Parameter Guide (I think), the O remembers the locations of the new samples loaded.

If you go to disk mode and pick "save sample data" it comes up preloaded to your first new appended sample.

If you then click "all", every new sample (and new multisample) just loaded will be saved as Korg format to the HD.

Any multisamples get converted to programs if you have clicked the advance conversion button, but single samples do not. The single samples are saved in korg format in a ksc file and the multis have their own folder. What ever name you choose goes on both.

So never mind, I just answered my own questions, mostly.

Ken

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:24 pm

kenackr wrote: The only way I could verify they were in there was to go into sampling mode and use the sample drop down list that showed they were loaded into sample slots 000-999. I was unable to find them by any other means.

When loading a Akai Volume or Program you can choose the option "advanced conversion load". It means you can choose a Program bank and number where the multisample is placed using the parameters of the Program, like amp env etc. pg 771 and 772.

kenackr wrote: What I was hoping was to be able to segregate the new samples into their own folder and save them with their own descriptive folder name like "Akai SFX" or "Akai Fairlight", etc.

This is possible. When you load the Akai multisamples into the Program bank of the Oasys you have to save the Program and sample data in diskmode before you shutt off the Oasys or you will loose your sample data. You can choose or make and name the folder the way you want. The O is converting the sample data format into Korg format.

You can load them all together, choose the .KSC file, or select the ones you like and find the .KMP files. pg 769, 770,771

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:37 pm

kenackr wrote:The instructions say the samples get loaded into sample ram appended to the last sample.

Yes, that's correct. Same with the Multisamples.

It really sounds to me as if it would be most convenient to you to load the Akai Programs or Volumes, instead of individual Samples. That way, the sounds will be loaded as Programs and (optionally) as Combis, and you'll be able to play them easily.

For more information, please see the sections "Load AKAI Program File" and "Load AKAI Volume" under the help heading referred to above. (The same information is also in the Parameter Guide, under Disk: Page Menu Commands: Load Selected; in the most recent version of the manuals, E5, these are on page 772.)

kenackr wrote:What I was hoping was to be able to segregate the new samples into their own folder and save them with their own descriptive folder name like "Akai SFX" or "Akai Fairlight", etc.

Based on what I just read in the parameter guide there seems no way to that, is there?

Ken

You can save groups of samples to disk in several different ways.

My guess is that what will work best for saving Akai Programs is to use the Save All command to save both the PCG file (which contains the OASYS Program and Combi data) and the KSC file, with all of the samples and Multisamples.

Best regards,

Dan

JamieC5361 · Post by **JamieC5361** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:23 am

Is there a way to permanently load an akai sample into a program?

I have loaded them, when I turn off the keyboard and turn it back on, the name of the program is still in the ame program slot but no sound until I get out the CD and reload it.

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:03 pm

Jamie,

When you load any external sample, it will not automatically be reloaded on the next startup.

The external sample has to be reloaded again on every statrup.

It's best to save the sample(s) to the hard drive while they are in Korg format and then on every startup you can load the file created when you saved them.

Ken

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:42 am

Back to the past !

I've tried everthing mentioned including importing a "volume" from the Akai disk and the results equal no gain.

In the volume I loaded with Advanced conversion Load, only 3 of about 24 samples were actually loaded as a "program" and were in fact multi samples spread across the keyboard.

I'm certain the rest were "one shot" samples and their names only showed up in sampling mode sample drop down list (not as multisamples).
I realize I can put the oneshots together like a drum kit, but I don't want to do that.

I've gone back and read & re-read both the manual and the parameter guide in the sampling area and saving & loading, etc and have not yet discovered the magic incantation or process to put these single shot samples into a program.

I did see a section that was about making a program from a multi sample, but nothing about how to make a program from a single sample.

I would really appreciate hearing from someone who has done this successfully. I'm sure it's right before my eyes, but I can't see it right now.

I'm like the blind men groping the elephant, so to speak.

Ken