Changing programs...

[Pr0]

When I change programs, independently from the category/bank/Ex, the notes I'm sustaining are cutoff (kind of). Is there a preference anywhere that allows the sound itself and it's effects to remain while I change to another program?

Pr0

[nitecrawler]

Not to my knowledge. One workaround is to access individual programs set up in combi mode and using vloume or mute to control. I think this may somewhat limit your poliphony, although I have not found it to be problematic.

Regards, Nitecrawler

[dhjdhj]

I'd like to add my vote to support such a feature.

[Pr0]

I remember playing with a brazilian guitar player, a friend of mine, and he had this BOSS pedal effects board which had this feature. He would then simply turn it on/off. I can´t remember the technical term though...

[danatkorg]

When I change programs, independently from the category/bank/Ex, the notes I'm sustaining are cutoff (kind of). Is there a preference anywhere that allows the sound itself and it's effects to remain while I change to another program?

Pr0

Notes are sustained across Program changes in Program mode (provided that KARMA is not used). You can actually play a note, change the Program, play another note, change the Program again, etc., and each note will sustain playing its own sound.

Notes do cut off when changing Combis, however.

Best regards,

Dan

[dhjdhj]

Sorry, but this is not my experience ---- in a few simple experiments I just tried, in Program mode, I found that sometimes the notes would be sustained, sometimes, they would be cutoff completely (and KARMA was not being used) and in the cases where the notes were sustained, the tone of those notes was instantly changed.

This is with the very latest version of the OS. I did experiments by starting with the very first sound (the oasys piano) and while holding a few notes down, I then "clicked" (with my fingernail) other patches and got the behavior described above.
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Notes are sustained across Program changes in Program mode (provided that KARMA is not used). You can actually play a note, change the Program, play another note, change the Program again, etc., and each note will sustain playing its own sound.

[thekeymaster]

Its seems the Fantom G is beginning to influence our appetites......seemless program changing or combi changing would be useful but I dont think it's a must have,there are ways to play live without such a feature.

Plus I think the only way Roland have achieved this is by the DSP effx section,splitting the 16 effx into two sections of 8. I may be wrong but its the effx that cause the glithces not the actual sounds themselves and so in the case of the OASYS this would be difficult to implement in combis,as we utilise all the effects section all the time.

From a personal point of view I'm happy how it is,I dont want to start to compromise on the effx section.

[danatkorg]

When changing Programs, notes continue to sustain. We've actually done a fair amount of work to make this happen. Effects and tempo will change, which will have some effect on the sound - sometimes a lot, sometimes only a little.

For instance, try this:

1. Set up your right hand to play a triad. Don't actually play any of the notes yet.
2. Select Program INT-A 001 Dreaming Sweeper.
3. Play and hold the first note of the triad. Keep holding the note through all the steps below.
4. Press Inc to select INT-A 002 Nylon Guitar 1 Knob5 Atk.
The tempo and effects change, but the Dreaming Sweeper Wave Sequence is still going.
5. Play and hold the second note, on the guitar. Keep holding the note through all the steps below.
6. Press Inc again to select INT-A 003 Stereo Octave Strings SW1.
7. Play and hold the third note, on the strings. Keep holding the note through all the steps below.
You should now have three notes sounding: one of Dreaming Sweeper, one of the Guitar (which decays rather quickly), and one of the strings.
Keep holding all three notes down.
8. Press Inc yet again to select INT-A 004 Studio Standard Kit.
Now, play some drums with your left hand, as the three notes continue to sustain on their respective sounds.

Best regards,

Dan

[dhjdhj]

Unfortunately, having it work, "sortof", isn't really that useful. An abrupt change in the sound is out of place and in your scenario, it can only be done on certain sounds.

I don't know what's involved in retaining the old sound, at least temporarily but a lot of my older synths can do it, as well as most of my softsynths.

One way to do it might be to maintain a buffer of the last second or two of the previous sound (post effects) and then mix the contents of that buffer in with the new sound, looping and fading it at the same time, thereby allowing it to at least fade gracefully, but without any sudden changes.

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[danatkorg]

Unfortunately, having it work, "sortof", isn't really that useful. An abrupt change in the sound is out of place and in your scenario, it can only be done on certain sounds.

I don't know what's involved in retaining the old sound, at least temporarily but a lot of my older synths can do it, as well as most of my softsynths.

I think there's probably a misunderstanding here; I'm not aware of any older synths which can sustain arbitrary numbers of sounds with different effects. I'm sorry that you're not pleased with the way this works on the OASYS, but I'll expect that you'd actually find that most other synths - hardware or software - are no better in this respect, and are often more limited.

We're also aware of the Fantom G, and even prior to that been aware of the desire to sustain sounds along with their effects. That's all that I can say on the topic, unfortunately.

Best regards,

Dan

[thekeymaster]

I think you've said enough Dan.......mmmmmm interesting.

Oh your example worked great nice one.

[dhjdhj]

No misunderstanding....please realize that I love this instrument. It is simply by nature to always want to make things even better....it's why I'm in the technology industry myself

Anytime you see criticism or complaints from me, assume that it is intended to be constructive and suggestions for improvement and at no time am I feeling that I'm sorry I bought this instrument.

[Pr0]

I think there's probably a misunderstanding here; I'm not aware of any older synths which can sustain arbitrary numbers of sounds with different effects. I'm sorry that you're not pleased with the way this works on the OASYS, but I'll expect that you'd actually find that most other synths - hardware or software - are no better in this respect, and are often more limited.

I can live with that. Thank you all for clearing this up.