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Using a microphone

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Hi everyone :oops:
pardon my ignorance but I just bought a microphone to use with my Oasys (Behringer B5, studio condenser, phantom powered). I couldn't figure out how to sing in it at the same time as playing program or combi or even sequencer : no sound !!
I tried to set it up in the "audio in/sampling" window, unsuccessfully... Of course I plugged it in the audio input 1 in the back of OASYS, level switch "up" in the MIC position (not Line), Phantom power "ON" obviously, level half scale.
I must be forgetting some major settings... Please help !
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The Oasys doesn't really function as a mixer, so you're not going to be able to use the mic in program or combi mode. The audio inputs are usable for sampling or the audio recorder part of the sequencer.

Sampler mode would be for making short recordings that you would play back as a sound - for example sound effects. You wouldn't use sampler for longer recordings like a whole song.

Sequencer mode would be used like a multi-track recorder, where you can have MIDI tracks and audio tracks that are song length. I assume this is probably what you want.

I post occaionally from work (like now), so I don't have my Oasys in front of me, but here are some general suggestions:

In sequencer mode, you need to assign your audio input to a track and then set that track up for record. If you're going to play also, you should probably start by setting up a Combi with the sounds you want to have as part of your recording. After you get a combi set up, go to sequencer mode, press the "^" button, and choose "copy from combi". Select the combi you just made.

Now you have a template for the MIDI side of things. Again, go to the audio track page and set the audio input you are using to a track and go to record enable mode.

In sampler mode, you need to go to input setup and select the input you are using. Then you need to be in sample record mode to get any audio.


If you have more specific questions, I can help you more, but you may want to start in the manual and get some background.
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tcornishmn wrote:The Oasys doesn't really function as a mixer, so you're not going to be able to use the mic in program or combi mode.
The OASYS *does* function as a mixer, and you specifically *can* use the mic inputs live in Program and Combi modes.

Make sure that you understand the Audio Input "Use Global Setting" check-box. For more info, see the Parameter Guide (for instance, under Program 0–8: Audio Input/Sampling) or online help.

If you want to use effects on the audio inputs, you'll need to set that up within the individual Programs/Combis/Songs.

Hope this helps!

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tcornishmn wrote: Sampler mode would be for making short recordings that you would play back as a sound - for example sound effects. You wouldn't use sampler for longer recordings like a whole song.
I don't agree totally with you on that point.
By any hasard I learned the power of this sampling mode.
I have a TV program on internet and I record the sound of it into the sampler of the Oasys.(This is even done in Program Mode) The program is generally 30 minutes. So that makes me a file about 350 MB on the hard-disk
A week ago or so I forgot to check "Disk" in the Sampling Setup.
So the whole thing went into RAM.
First I couldn't find the file anymore and finally found it in the Sampler on C2! :D
The whole thing was on 1 note!
To copy the recordings to the hard-disk, I had to hold the note so that the sample would be played back to the hard-disk and recorded there.
I was flabergasted by the power of the Oasys through this error.
I had also in mind that sampling like this was for short sounds etc... like you have, but this tought me a new lesson. The Oasys is unbelievable in that sense. You can put a whole movie on a key in your keyboard if you like! (Of course it is limited by the RAM-capacity, but still)
But as you said, normally you would record into the sequencer.
BTW there is a nice tutorial from Mike somewhere about the different possibilities of using buses with "a" mike (and vocoder).
Also I would recommend Mike Conways DVD "Unofficial Oasys". It teaches you all the basics of the O.
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danatkorg wrote:
tcornishmn wrote:The Oasys doesn't really function as a mixer, so you're not going to be able to use the mic in program or combi mode.
The OASYS *does* function as a mixer, and you specifically *can* use the mic inputs live in Program and Combi modes.

Make sure that you understand the Audio Input "Use Global Setting" check-box. For more info, see the Parameter Guide (for instance, under Program 0–8: Audio Input/Sampling) or online help.

If you want to use effects on the audio inputs, you'll need to set that up within the individual Programs/Combis/Songs.

Hope this helps!

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Dan
Oops - sorry for the bad info! :oops:
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tcornishmn wrote: Oops - sorry for the bad info! :oops:
No worries! There's a lot to keep track of. I enjoy & appreciate all of your contributions to this forum.

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Sorry guys
I have tried what it says on Page 0-8 Audio Input, maybe wrong ???
But maybe there is something wrong with my microphone (brand new though...) or plugging. I have been using XLR on the microphone side, Jack on Oasys Input 1 side. is that correct ?
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Is the 1/4" jack tip ring sleeve? meaning 3 contact areas instead of 2? if not, you'll need to get a cable that has 3 contact areas (an XLR fitting is prefered).

Have you tried input 2?

If you have followed the manual and doubled checked your O settings are correct then you may indeed have either a bad mic or a bad cord. Just remember that one drop on the floor for a condenser mic may kill it.

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cyrille mirgain wrote:Sorry guys
I have tried what it says on Page 0-8 Audio Input, maybe wrong ???
But maybe there is something wrong with my microphone (brand new though...) or plugging. I have been using XLR on the microphone side, Jack on Oasys Input 1 side. is that correct ?
I think you will need to use the XLR input to get the Phatnom power and Mic pre-amp. 1/4" jacks don't usually carry phantom on any device. Also make sure the cable is wired balanced, phantom power doesn't like having 1 leg grounded by unbalanced leads.
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Edit - I need to fix the audio level. The ambient mic camera was fine, but the OASYS outputs were laid down way too low. You couldn't really tell what the result was. Will re-post soon.
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Post by Mike Conway »

FIXED!!




I just made this video, using a condenser mic, with an XLR connection to Input 1 and a Virus Synth plugged into Inputs 3 & 4.

OASYS WITH MICROPHONE


Also, this older MULTI-BUS video may be of interest.
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