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OK - I'm finding that presetting a list of patches in advance of a live gig is not practical because the song ordering can get changed on the fly.

So, I'm wondering if anyone makes a little MIDI device that just has buttons on it that can be used to send patch changes. I'd like to be able to quickly press 37<Enter> or 124<Enter> and have my Oasys switch....

It's way too difficult to do this kind of thing on the Oasys itself. Up/down buttons and a slider simply don't cut it.

I don't believe you need a little midi device to do what you want.
Simply, arrange the sounds on your external devices into the memory locations that would correspond with e.g., with whatever selection you make on the Oasys. If you wanted Program A016 (Real Suitcase E.Piano)
but wanted a specific pad sound from an external source,locate the desired
pad and move it to Program A016 on that device. Make sure the Oasys is
transmitting on the same midi channel as the external is receiving.

Caveat… If you have multiple external devices all receiving on different
midi channels than maybe something like a Mark of the Unicorn Midi Timepiece AV which has a midi cannon feature that will do what you are describing. Create a patch in the Midi Timepiece, that once initiated, sends multiple program changes on multiple channels among other things.
HTH - Schweats

The problem is to quickly change to a desired patch ON THE OASYS ITSELF!

Nothing to do with other devices.

I'm actually doing something similar to control MainStage on a laptop which is being played using a Yamaha AN1x keyboard as a controller (local off).

That keyboard has a numeric keypad on it so I can quickly press 25<Enter> on it to change my MainStage patch.

I want to be able to do the same thing for the Oasys but rather than dedicate a some other keyboard to it, I'm looking for a SMALL device that would just sit on the corner of the Oasys and let me change patches quickly.

I have also tried using a Roland FP-300 pedal controller but that approach is far too clumsy as you can't quickly jump to patches that are further than 5 MIDI values apart.

Maybe I misunderstood, but if you're in Program mode, with the highlight on the patch name, you can use the keypad to direct-enter the patch number. ie <3>

Doesn't that do it for you? (more precise than up/down or slider)

Yeah, but that fails immediately as soon as I have touched ANY other place on the screen, or switched to one of the other screens and have some other field highlighted.

Sending an external MIDI patch change works much better. I have been using a Roland foot controller to do it but it's extremely limited since you can really only change within a group of 5 patches quickly. Very hard to do a change to an arbitrary patch.

dhjdhj wrote:Yeah, but that fails immediately as soon as I have touched ANY other place on the screen, or switched to one of the other screens and have some other field highlighted.

Hit Exit button two times, it will get you to the main page from almost (if not even absolutely) anywhere within program of combi mode.

Thanks for all the suggestions --- I could also twirl on my toes and recite Harry Potter incantations....sigh....

I know there are lots of "workarounds" but I'm not looking for workarounds. I'm in a live situation, not a studio. If I'm playing a song and I know that at some point later in that song I want to change to a new patch, I will typically "prepare" for that change by entering the digits of the new patch number in advance (i.e, when I have time). At the moment I want the new patch, I push ONE BUTTON and I'm changed.

In the meantime, as part of the previously loaded patch, I might have subsequently switched to another view to adjust something in real-time and I don't want to be thinking about things like EXIT EXIT EXIT etc.

In other words, I want the synth's usability to be adjusted to how I want to work/play, as opposed to my having to compromise how I work to suit the synth.

Anyhow, sounds like nobody here knows of such a device. Maybe it's time to build one.

dhjdhj wrote:If I'm playing a song and I know that at some point later in that song I want to change to a new patch, I will typically "prepare" for that change by entering the digits of the new patch number in advance (i.e, when I have time). At the moment I want the new patch, I push ONE BUTTON and I'm changed.

In the meantime, as part of the previously loaded patch, I might have subsequently switched to another view to adjust something in real-time and I don't want to be thinking about things like EXIT EXIT EXIT etc.

That is exactly what you get, no thinking no incantations.
You want to change to patch 107, hit 2xExit 1 0 7 when you have time, and when you need to change hit Enter. That's it.
There is no penalty on hitting exit too many times, and two is enough.

A bank change would be more complicated, but that is no problem when using combis.

And make a cue list, it makes life easier.

Thanks for all the suggestions --- I could also twirl on my toes and recite Harry Potter incantations....sigh....

Yeah, what ever...

The issue is not about pressing "exit", although that's a nuisance. The issue is that pressing "exit" takes me away from whatever dialog I was at, and I don't want to have to do that to prepare a patch change. I should be able to PREPARE a patch change without having to change anything else.

sirCombatWombat wrote: That is exactly what you get, no thinking no incantations.
You want to change to patch 107, hit 2xExit 1 0 7 when you have time, and when you need to change hit Enter. That's it.
There is no penalty on hitting exit too many times, and two is enough.

Uhmmm, cuelists are fine if the band leader doesn't suddenly change the order in which things happen. Further, a lot of improvisation goes on in our band....I can easily be at a point where I just think "hmmm, I want a lead synth in a moment". It's TRIVIAL for me to do this with my other keyboard and MainStage, it should be just as trivial (if not more so, given the price) to do it with the Oasys.

sirCombatWombat wrote: And make a cue list, it makes life easier.