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organ sound
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:50 am
by Luke672
Hi. I"m trying to get a certain sound out of my extreme. The organ sound where the keyboardist plays chords but it sounds like the chords have some movement and a warm type sound. Its used a lot in progressive rock as well as bands like the doors, etc... Anyone know how to get that sound? Is it done by doing something with the valve force?
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:09 am
by Sharp
Select an Organ sound on your Triton and push the joy stick forward once and let it go.
For the majority of organ sounds the joy stick acts like a switch that when pressed forward like this, it turns on a Rotary Speaker effect. Pressing the joystick forward again turns off the effect.
Regards.
Sharp.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:42 am
by drford
I like the Art Rock Organ patch, I have used it for 2 tours now as my first choice. Yes as said above pushing the hammer up, or connecting a foot switch and setting the foot switch to act as the same midi trigger as pushing the hammer up, will start the Leslie emulation.
As a side note, the really important thing you need to remember is that the emulation of the Leslie speaker is more than just a rotary sound. It has a thickening EQ sound which you will find ads a nice change in addition to the rotary sound.
If you go to your Valve force controls, you can then ad the classic overdriven distortion found on a real Hammond B2 (more percussive) or a B3 (more jazzy) by pushing the tubes to their max. I have found that just being able to add more fuzz and grit to your organ with the control nob during a performance can take you from mild to wild quickly when you need to rip out a solo.
Also, use the rotary effect as an effect, not just as a patch. Switching back and forth between the normal and rotary will give you nice movement in any track.
Now add a volume peddle for swells, and a foot switch so that your left hand can comp chords and you are all set.
In addition to that, I would recommend getting another sound, like jazzy B3 organ or something has a more glassy swishy sound.
One last thing, the real B3 organ with drawbars was built on a harmonics system of sound addition with tonewheels. The original synthesizer. Since you are dealing with a superior synth that is modeling one of the greatest keyboard instruments ever created, know that you will find patches in the organ banks that sound really great when you voice a thick chord, and some will sound terrible.
Hold Octaves when you are auditioning Organ patches so that you can really hear the harmonics in each patch. Some ad 2's, some ad 5ths, some add even more at repeating octaves which will end up giving you Sus chords without even trying.
So be choosy!
DrFord
Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:30 pm
by Troy
I'm not nearly as qualified as Sharp or Dr Ford, but I will give an "amen" to the above.
I got the Berklee book on playing Hammond and highly recommend it. You'll have to Google for it, as I don't remember the name right now, but 2 insights I got were
1. The changing from Leslie on to Leslie off is what everyone is after, not either setting itself.
2. Some B3 patches are already quite complex harmonically, so don't think you're cheating to just play one note sometimes.
Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:50 pm
by drford
Thanks for the compliment Troy. And Troy is also very correct. I found found one of my favorite patches is the "Art Rock" Organ sound. It's a simple, octave harmonic patch (so I can voice whatever chord I want without sounding too muddy) and when you turn the leslie effect on you really get a timbre change. The spooling up is also very realistic. I also like the Dirty B3 patch but it needed a bit of tweaking for me.