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Hello,
I recently put out a CD of music (duh) and listened to it. When I listen to it through my Mp3 player it sounds great. But I just bought a Sony 380watt sound system and played it through it sounds very horrible. I am very depressed and think all my songs need a lot of work. Is there a step I need to go through to make them better quality? Could it just be a bad sound system? All I do is burn directly out of the Oasys...should I be going through a Mixer ...etc?
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Too little info as to what the "bad" is. The OASYS has a mixer, so that's not the problem.

I'm guessing that your sounds are using the same space and swathed in FX. Do not just stack the sounds, but rather pan and EQ them, so they don't share the same space. Add effects last, if possible.

(TIP: Effects can be panned, too!)

Picture your instruments up on a stage and pan them to those positions. Also, look at the Combis, which are production ready. A lot of them use the Mastering Limiter. Dissect them and use them for examples.
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Thanks Mike, for responding. :D
As what I mean by 'bad' is that its just not crisp clear sound. it sounds all to muffled I guess. its just no the way other music is nor the way i want it!
I'll try to dissect the Combis lyk you said.
When you put out music is there another step you do? Or is it directly from the Oasys?\
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Ultimate Dj wrote:When you put out music is there another step you do? Or is it directly from the Oasys?
No intermediate step, as I usually go from my OASYS to my computer, for capturing.
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Dj -

There is no one answer here. Without hearing your music it’s impossible to be specific.

However - the most important link in the chain is your monitoring system and the acoustic treatment of your environment.

As an example - if when listening on mix-down you hear too much bass, your natural response will be to remove some bass. However, if it was you rspeakers or headphones that were providing the excess bass, then you would have incorrectly compensated in your mix by removing too much bass from it. On playback on another speaker system, the music will have too little bass because you would have removed it.

Hence you should strive for one or both of these:

- a flat monitoring system, generally provided by good near field monitors.
- a monitoring system whose sound you know.

The issue here is that, even with a flat monitoring system, your ear may not be perfect. For me, my right ear is not as good with high frequencies as my left ear, so I have to take that into consideration when I'm mixing, and the only way to do that is to learn over time by listening to lots of music on the speakers I know.

Anyway, for the long term - invest in the best near field monitoring system you can afford, and if using headphones, use the Sennheiser 600s or 650s or AKG equivalents. These will provide maximum possibility of your music sounding balanced, and of sounding the same on whatever subsequent sound system you play back on.

In the mean time, depending on how important these pieces are to you, you may consider paying an on-line mastering engineer a few hundred dollars to remaster one or more of the tracks. Alternatively, purchase Adobe Audition or Bias Peak; or else find some recommendations on how one of the major DAWS can be configured for mastering, and try to remaster them yourself.

The quickest approach to improving your mixes would be to bring them into the OASYS and use its multiband compressor and eqs to do some tweaking - on your new amp system (if it’s a high quality amp?).

I would also recommend that you purchase a copy of Bob Katz's book Mastering Audio - The Art and the Science. It’s an excellent book around on mastering. You can preview it on google books.:

http://books.google.com/books?id=EBCmpw ... kyOkLnEFVU

Finally, in terms of 'cleanliness' of CDs, OASYS CD burning is absolutely impeccable - absolutely spotless - no noise whatsoever. Given its all digital path and wireless environment, OASYS CD burning is one of its strongest suits.

Kevin.
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I personally think the AKG-701 is one of the best headphones available. I got one for 239.99 off of ebay. They are reference headphones.
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RobertPlatinum wrote:I personally think the AKG-701 is one of the best headphones available. I got one for 239.99 off of ebay. They are reference headphones.
they are good, but still headphones!

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Hi DJ,
I know I've experienced the same perplexities auditioning my combis through a variety of equipment. I'm sure a good many of us wrestle with finding the "sweet spot" for playback. Professionals will monitor through expensive "true" audio systems. Others may be using cheap commercial headphones or desktop speakers. Some go through their home stereo systems. Others playback with their walkmans.

It would be great to read/hear what the production houses - Sony, Warner, EMI, et al do to compensate for this fact.

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EJ2 wrote:Hi DJ,
I know I've experienced the same perplexities auditioning my combis through a variety of equipment. I'm sure a good many of us wrestle with finding the "sweet spot" for playback. Professionals will monitor through expensive "true" audio systems. Others may be using cheap commercial headphones or desktop speakers. Some go through their home stereo systems. Others playback with their walkmans.

It would be great to read/hear what the production houses - Sony, Warner, EMI, et al do to compensate for this fact.

Cheers,
Eric

Thanks everyone for their Input. But I think I figured it out! :D
I just Bounced the songs at a lower volume and it sounds much better! :D
I just go through my actually pretty good quality Monitor Speaks. My only problem was hearing it through a Sony Boom Box.
But I think I got it figured out!
thnx again


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Ultimate Dj wrote:Thanks Mike, for responding. :D
As what I mean by 'bad' is that its just not crisp clear sound. it sounds all to muffled I guess. its just no the way other music is nor the way i want it!
I'll try to dissect the Combis lyk you said.
When you put out music is there another step you do? Or is it directly from the Oasys?\
thnx


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If your eq's on your individual programs are good and good for the mix when they are mixed, for instance cutting the lows on a string or a horn just enough to make room for the bass in the mix. Also if you have good monitors, your mix will sound almost exactly the same as straight out of the keyboard on a cd burn.

I mix entirely in the O. I mix down to a stereo file on my Flash drive and/or burn directly to CD.
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