Hi all,
Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm quite new to all this technology stuff!!!
Considering the M3 as a next (first) purchase. What (if any) are the advantages of buying the whole M3 (with keyboard) rather than just the M3M and buying a separate master controller keyboard.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to do the latter? Given that the M3-73 is about £1900....is the actual Korg keyboard you get worth an extra £500?
I have tried searching for similar questions with no avail....perhaps cos it's a silly question!
Anyway, any constructive comments would be most appreciated.
Kind Regards
Richard
With or without the keyboard?
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If this is your first purchase, I would buy with the keybed! This will allow you to enjoy the entire M3 experience as was setup by Korg. The M373 is a Great choice because you get 6 octaves of C to shining C 
You can enjoy the M3 to the fullest extent right out of the box! You don't have to bother looking for another controller and then assigning controls to do the things that Korg already has done using their keybed. It can be a pain depending on what you like to do.
The Main Thing is that this appears to be a One-Way Street.
You can buy with keybed and use the module with separate control if you wish. You CAN NOT BUY THE MODULE AND THEN BUY THE KORG KEYBED LATER!!!
Again, If this is your first purchase you will probably shorten your the learning curve by purchasing the M373 and enjoy your purchase right out of the box. Unpack, plug in headphones, turn machine on, and then the FUN begins! It will make you smile and time will pass very quickly as you are investigating all the Great stuff already built into the presets.
I have gone through this and purchased what I thought was a great controller for the M3M. It was a Novation SL61 remote ($600) and ended up having to send it back because it would sometime not send a note off msg so a note would continue to play. Had to program several templates to assign the ribbon, joystick, sw1 & sw2, etc. depending on the switch assignment of the M3M programs/combis. It can become frustrating, expensive, time consuming, and a total turn off. Just depends on what you want to do and how you want to spend your time.
From my experience, I would have saved a lot of money and time if I could have purchased the M373 to begin with. Just one opinion but I hope it helps you somewhat. I really don't think you can go wrong purchasing the M373.
Regards,
Rick
You can enjoy the M3 to the fullest extent right out of the box! You don't have to bother looking for another controller and then assigning controls to do the things that Korg already has done using their keybed. It can be a pain depending on what you like to do.
The Main Thing is that this appears to be a One-Way Street.
You can buy with keybed and use the module with separate control if you wish. You CAN NOT BUY THE MODULE AND THEN BUY THE KORG KEYBED LATER!!!Again, If this is your first purchase you will probably shorten your the learning curve by purchasing the M373 and enjoy your purchase right out of the box. Unpack, plug in headphones, turn machine on, and then the FUN begins! It will make you smile and time will pass very quickly as you are investigating all the Great stuff already built into the presets.
I have gone through this and purchased what I thought was a great controller for the M3M. It was a Novation SL61 remote ($600) and ended up having to send it back because it would sometime not send a note off msg so a note would continue to play. Had to program several templates to assign the ribbon, joystick, sw1 & sw2, etc. depending on the switch assignment of the M3M programs/combis. It can become frustrating, expensive, time consuming, and a total turn off. Just depends on what you want to do and how you want to spend your time.
From my experience, I would have saved a lot of money and time if I could have purchased the M373 to begin with. Just one opinion but I hope it helps you somewhat. I really don't think you can go wrong purchasing the M373.
Regards,
Rick
Thanks for your reply Rick. That was very useful....
Sounds like good enough reasons to purchase the M373 then!
As an aside.....I'm intending to setup a small home music studio....pc based with cubase installed / connected to keyboard etc.
Since cubase is obviously a sequencer do I really need the sequencing functions that a workstation, such as the M3, provides......?
Richard.
Sounds like good enough reasons to purchase the M373 then!
As an aside.....I'm intending to setup a small home music studio....pc based with cubase installed / connected to keyboard etc.
Since cubase is obviously a sequencer do I really need the sequencing functions that a workstation, such as the M3, provides......?
Richard.
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I would definitely recommend an M3 keyboard version for two reasons:
1. It is easier to use especially for someone without a lot of midi knowledge
2. The keyboard action you get in pro workstations like the Korg M3, Yamaha Mofif XS, and Roland Fantom G are significantly better than any controller-only keyboard.
1. It is easier to use especially for someone without a lot of midi knowledge
2. The keyboard action you get in pro workstations like the Korg M3, Yamaha Mofif XS, and Roland Fantom G are significantly better than any controller-only keyboard.
No, but there are many people who don't use the Sequencer function on their workstations. Besides the actual midi sequencing aspect of the M3 sequencer, it is also the operating mode that would allow you to send 16 simultaneous midi tracks from your computer sequencer to play back using the M3's sound engine.RichRadio wrote: Since cubase is obviously a sequencer do I really need the sequencing functions that a workstation, such as the M3, provides......?
Yes, I second (or Third) MartinHines reply. 
I am just a little person but I have not found a workstation that will replace a full blown DAW. I have a few workstations and only use the sequencing function on just a few of them. I spent a lot of time and money on a 64 bit DAW and then VSTi servers and this and that. So much that I can not keep up with all the upgrades and improvements. Sometimes it is just a pain to boot everything up in the correct sequence to capture an inspirational moment that may only last a few seconds.
I do and have used the M3M sequencer to capture those special moments as it is easy to use. A two button press and you can capture an idea using a combi that may be inspirational. So, It could be an important feature when the time is right. You MUST save it before you turn the machine off or it will be lost in the great bit bucket in the sky but this is not a problem if you keep a stick memory pluged in and save before powering down.
You do not NEED the sequencer in the M3 if you are using a DAW but, it is there, It is probably one of the best/easiest to use, you can't get a workstation without some sort of sequencer so the cost is built in, and given the other pluses the M3 has, Drum Track, Karma, Pads that play velocity sensitive chords, Great combis and programs, real time controls, RPPR generator, etc. You are going to want that on board sequencer for those times that you only have a very little time to play and capture the moment... When you get the M373, take a little time to learn the sequencer, it will pay off.
Regards,
Rick
(I have a tune right now I would have totaly lost if it was not for the M3 sequencer. Once I had the melody and chords in the sequencer, I sent them out to Sonar just to save the Idea. It is great and I am shocked how little I need to do in Sonar to make the original takes better...)
Regards,
Rick
I am just a little person but I have not found a workstation that will replace a full blown DAW. I have a few workstations and only use the sequencing function on just a few of them. I spent a lot of time and money on a 64 bit DAW and then VSTi servers and this and that. So much that I can not keep up with all the upgrades and improvements. Sometimes it is just a pain to boot everything up in the correct sequence to capture an inspirational moment that may only last a few seconds.
I do and have used the M3M sequencer to capture those special moments as it is easy to use. A two button press and you can capture an idea using a combi that may be inspirational. So, It could be an important feature when the time is right. You MUST save it before you turn the machine off or it will be lost in the great bit bucket in the sky but this is not a problem if you keep a stick memory pluged in and save before powering down.
You do not NEED the sequencer in the M3 if you are using a DAW but, it is there, It is probably one of the best/easiest to use, you can't get a workstation without some sort of sequencer so the cost is built in, and given the other pluses the M3 has, Drum Track, Karma, Pads that play velocity sensitive chords, Great combis and programs, real time controls, RPPR generator, etc. You are going to want that on board sequencer for those times that you only have a very little time to play and capture the moment... When you get the M373, take a little time to learn the sequencer, it will pay off.
Regards,
Rick
(I have a tune right now I would have totaly lost if it was not for the M3 sequencer. Once I had the melody and chords in the sequencer, I sent them out to Sonar just to save the Idea. It is great and I am shocked how little I need to do in Sonar to make the original takes better...)
Regards,
Rick
i agree in suggest to buy the key version for this reason:
less cable around
you gain the ribbon and joystick controller that i simply found essential in my live
you gain sw1 and sw2 button to quick recall fx or modulation or other things already programmed in M3 sounds
the key action is good (i am speaking of the 61-keys)
finally consider that you still keep the option to bring to gig or rehearsal only the module w/o the key
less cable around
you gain the ribbon and joystick controller that i simply found essential in my live
you gain sw1 and sw2 button to quick recall fx or modulation or other things already programmed in M3 sounds
the key action is good (i am speaking of the 61-keys)
finally consider that you still keep the option to bring to gig or rehearsal only the module w/o the key