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Music scoring for film, SMPTE and Cubase4

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I'm a new owner of an OASIS and also cubase 4. Been doing MIDI and Audio for decaades however.

I'm nervous about hooking ip SMPTE time code from a film I'm gong to get and allowing the OASYS be controlled by it.

Do I just go itno Global and un check enabled to disable the OASYS as the primary instrument so Cubase to follow the SMPTE? I wish I could be more specific.

Any tips from the Korg end or the Cubase end on this matter? I realize Cubase is off topic.
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SMPTE, ...

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Well,

SMPTE is a sync protocol for sync recording machines and so on,...

the OASYS can not interpret SMPTE signals, however you could sync the OASYS via MTC and SMPTE to a recording device which understands stuff like that, ...

If you work with Cubase, let Cubase deal with SMPTE and the OASYS does MIDI !

hope this helps to avoid confusion :roll:

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So I am hearing from you that the Korg can become an external device controlled by Cubase and that the keyboard and instruments are as well.

The time code on the movie will capture the MIDI and (maybe?) audio data in sync with the movie's timecode.

When the audio track is completed I guess I export it and somehow magically the time code is embedded.

I hope I'm getting warm here the film is on it's was and I am probably way over my head.

Any thoughts from the vido experts in this forum would be appreciated.

Thank you imusic.
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Smpte is the sync used for film/video. MTC, midi time code, is used in our world of keyboards and sequencing and software (like Cubase)

Mostly, smaller projects are now done by giving you a video file that plays in your DAW (Cubase, ProTools, Logic) and then you score in the software via your Oasys & other goodies that you like to play.

If you need the O to follow sync, you simply slave it to MTC from your Software via a USB Midi Interface. That connects the software to your midi ports on the O.

If you need to slave to SMPTE timecode from an external video player, then you may need something like MOTU's Miditimpiece AV. That translates external SMPTE & MIDI sync to your software and synths.

So it seems like, in your case, Cubase will be the sync Master. Playing the video file and sending MTC to the O. The Movie should have an imbedded timecode already. The timeline in Cubase should be set to match the frame rate of your movie file (ie. 29.97 ndf or 30fps ndf) so that the Cubase timeline corresponds to the movie time. This isn't mandatory, but makes spotting life easier for sure.

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Jaylaca wrote:...
Mostly, smaller projects are now done by giving you a video file that plays in your DAW (Cubase, ProTools, Logic)

...you simply slave it to MTC from your Software via a USB Midi Interface. That connects the software to your midi ports on the O.

A conventional MIDI cable would do the same thing, Yes?

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Jason
Thank you.

What is DAW Jason/anyone
When I finish the mix, how do I deliver it to the producer with SMTPE timecode which was embedded in the movie? How is the cutter going to know how to sync music and the movie together?
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DAW = Digital Audio Workstation, ie Cubase.
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robwallace wrote:
Jaylaca wrote:...
What is DAW Jason/anyone
When I finish the mix, how do I deliver it to the producer with SMTPE timecode which was embedded in the movie? How is the cutter going to know how to sync music and the movie together?
DAW is Digital Audio Workstation software. Which is what Cubase is.

If you're scoring to a movie file from within Cubase. As long as you've got the project setup to the same timecode as the editor is using. When you export your final mixdown, it should drop right into the editor's program and line up, since they will have the same 'start points' in time.

Just do your score, give the mixdown to your editor and let him drop it in his timeline.
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Thanks everyone. I was nervous about having this short film project with only several days of owning the OASYS and cubase4. Pretty steep learning curves.
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