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Upgrading RAM...why?

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:49 pm
by Musicman222
Hi fellow Triton lovers. I'm new here and I'll probably be asking a lot of questions, as most of you here seem to know your craft very well. I would like to learn as much as I can from you. At this point, I use my TEX to play live, and go through and find a few preloaded sounds to jam with.

On to this specific question. Why upgrade the RAM to 96MB? What does that allow you to do that you couldn't without the upgrade. What I'm getting at would be..."What are the possibilities"? To be honest, right now I don't know enough about it to ask really detailed questions...but I hope by reading the responses from you all, I can change that.

Thanks in advance for your time and help. :)

Musicman222

Re: Upgrading RAM...why?

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:43 pm
by KrzysiekK
1. Triton is not a sophisticated synth, it is more workstation/sampler (as name states). Hence it is more sample-oriented instrument; it relies on samples (or better said - sample quality) much, so the more memory to keep them, the better

2. RAM is the only writtable "operating" memory in Triton, which means, everything loaded into it can be used in realtime, just like ROM samples (any use in program/combi/sequence). I also recommend reading OG, p.12

3. I belive Triton owners who use In-Track sampling feature would give you an answer.

Finally, I decided to upgrade because of the very low memory price and I required it load one of my fav. piano samples (72MB library). With more sample memory, You can keep more big instruments in memory without need to reload the data; and of course use these instruments simultainously.

I must warn you that the use of improper RAM may end with problems like clicks/noises in samples.

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:26 pm
by Musicman222
OK...so what you are saying is that I can load sounds, that are not preloaded on the TEX, and play those in Programs/Combis/Sequences...right? If that is the case...how/where do I get these new sounds? And then how do I get them on my TEX?

Also, you mentioned "improper RAM". What is that? I saw some RAM (Gold plated connections) on E-Bay for like $50. Would that be considered good or bad...and why? I have read that silver connections sometimes produce clicks, pops, and hiss.

Honestly...this is my first "real" keyboard. I don't have years of experience working with keyboards/synths/workstations/samplers. There is probably more that I don't know, than I do know. So if anyone has the answers...I would love to hear them.

Thank you KrzysiekK for the quick response. I'll read page 12 tonight. :)
Musicman222

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:35 pm
by Musicman222
I would love to learn how to do this, with that wonderful piano sample you mentioned...if that is possible. I would love to hear what it sounds like. I don't know if that is easy or not...just thought it would be a good learning experience.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:07 pm
by shrike
I don't have years of experience working with keyboards/synths/workstations/samplers.
That's why first thing you should do is read those manuals that came with your Extreme. Manuals will point you to possibilities workstation/sampler offers. And everything you read, try to do it - this will give you some creativity boost.
OK...so what you are saying is that I can load sounds, that are not preloaded on the TEX, and play those in Programs/Combis/Sequences...right?
Yes. That's one of two functions of a sampler. Sampler can be used as tone generator and wave-trigger device. As a tone generator, sampler allows you to import samples and create multisamples not found among Extreme's preset multisamples. Multisample is the sound core upon which you add various filters, amplifiers, effects etc, to shape the desired sound. Each multisample consists of certain number of samples (I'm trying to explain you how things work in short). So, you can reproduce any instrument in your Extreme. As wave-trigger device, sampler allows you to assign wave sequences to keys and trigger them (OK, this is too short, but you'll get the picture).
If that is the case...how/where do I get these new sounds?
You can search through Net, there are some free wave samples. You can also create them on your own - you can sample some acoustic instrument, for example.
And then how do I get them on my TEX?
Put some effort in reading manuals (Parameter Guide is your best friend, believe me) and browsing through older posts in this forum section, everything is already answered in this subject.For example, this two threads:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ght=sample

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hlight=ksc

Regarding RAM, you have to find RAM that matches to the one you already have in Extreme. Useful link:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=14545

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:23 pm
by Musicman222
About the manuals...I have browsed through them. I have not looked at them in depth. I'll try that. I have watched the Video Owners Manual about 10 times and the advanced DVD it references at least that many.

When I originally bought my TEX I didn't give much thought to the fact that it was a sampler. I just thought that I could capture the sound of banging pots and jingling keys with a mic and my digital sound board...then edit those sounds on my computer.

Now I am discovering that sampling actually allows me to load NEW sounds like pianos, strings, brass, etc. and I love the idea of that!!! I'm just a little fuzzy on how I go about doing this. I have reloaded the sounds in my TEX so it is just like it came from the factory and saved everything to a CF and a USB.

Now I guess it's time to start experimenting with my TEX. Thanks for the links and the replies shrike. I'll look over the links and read through more of the manual regarding sampling and get back to the boards with my questions then.

Thanks guys,
Musicman222

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:23 pm
by Musicman222
I've noticed that there are a lot of different opinions about RAM (like what to get). Some say only buy the gold plated RAM, but others say it doesn't matter. Some RAM sells for $10(for 96MB)...while other RAM sells for $50(for 96MB). What are the pros and cons to the different kinds of RAM out there? I have a TEX61 and a TEX88...and I want to max out the RAM on both. If you are wondering why I have 2...one is for the studio, one is for gigs. What do I buy and where do I buy it? If it's not too much trouble, tell me why I should buy that RAM as opposed to others out there?

Thanks guys,
Musicman222

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:58 pm
by shrike
When someone has good reputation for selling RAM bars that work every time, I don't see any point in asking
tell me why I should buy that RAM as opposed to others out there?
I mean, I don't get it. For example, I bought my RAM from source with absolutely no reputation at all, it was a gamble will it work (one bar didn't so I had to use some means of convincing - brute force one the seller, that is - to change the faulty one for good one), I overpaid it twice as much compared to what you guys in USA pay for the same thing and even if I wanted to buy from this furnisianwhatsoever guy, I couldn't (no e-bay here in that time).

There is a whole thread about reliable source for RAM - I gave you link above. Sharp, the Man in this forum, says it's OK to trust this fournisian gay for his RAM.

If you want, I can probably hook you to my source. If you have about 90 kg in muscles, you'll get a good deal too.

You have two excellent pieces of art - two Extremes. Don't you want to give them best RAM available? Go for the gold plated ones and sleep without any worry about instability, corrosion, glitches etc etc.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:55 pm
by Musicman222
That ebay store no longer exist. Or at least that what it said.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:55 pm
by tritex4
Musicman222 wrote:That ebay store no longer exist. Or at least that what it said.
http://stores.ebay.com/fourniersean-sam ... idZ2QQtZkm

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:42 pm
by Musicman222
Thanks for the info. I will be ordering some of the Gold Plated RAM from this guy(for my TEX61), in the next week or two. If it is as good as everyone claims it is...I will be ordering more for my TEX88.

Thanx again!!!

Fourniasean RAM causes static distortion in Triton Extreme

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:07 pm
by robdevine69
Hello all,

I recently purchased the 96mb Gold contact RAM from E-Bay seller Fourniasean and this RAM causes static or distortion sound in the factory Rom sounds and Drum samples in my Triton Extreme if all 3 chips are installed? If I just leave 2 RAM modules installed the static or distorted sound goes away and everything is perfect, I have tried 2 at a time of all 3 chips to see if one was bad but that does not appear to be the case. I have read of this problem in multiple forums and am wondering if there is anyone that has a Triton Extreme 61key with the Moss boards installed with full 96mb RAM installed without this issue? If so please either sell me your RAM chips or tell me your source or secret. My Triton is brand new fresh out of the box and so was the ram, so nothing had dirt or grime and no contacts are in any way dirty or damaged either so you know in advance. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Robert

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:18 pm
by SanderXpander
I have a fully expanded tex 61 with MOSS and no issues. If I remember I can check the chip labels next time I get it from storage. Do you actually need all the RAM btw?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:01 am
by robdevine69
Thanks SanderXpander!
I would love to get the name on the labels from you:)
I'm not sure if I will need all of the RAM but I like to fully expand all of my gear to its full potential. I'm a little crazy like that.