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1. Is there a way to set which bank loaded programs and combis go to?

2. How do you set what the joystick and ribbon controller do?

3. How do you make your own programs? I've been downloading ones people have created, but have been curious about how they go about doing it.

If you can answer any or all of these questions, that would be great!

Thanks.

1. Is there a way to set which bank loaded programs and combis go to?

Yes...2 ways I know of. The first is use librarian software. Google SoundTower and look for the Triton Sound Editor. (The software is not free, but I'm thinking about buying it myself.) The second, is to save it in Bank E...and save only bank E. Thus you are loading the programs you want. Use Bank N if you need to bounce some around. This takes much longer...but it's free.

2. How do you set what the joystick and ribbon controller do?

In Program press Menu. Select P2 (Edit - Pitch).

3. How do you make your own programs? I've been downloading ones people have created, but have been curious about how they go about doing it.

The best advice I can give you on this, is to find a program or combi that Sounds close to the way you want it to. Then play around with the IFX and Master FX. If you are still lacking what you want...start playing with the Cutoff, Resonance, Intensity, and Release. Once you have what you are looking for...Save it to Bank E, or N. I know there is a lot more detail that could be added here...but this is a good starting point.

I hope this helps,
Musicman222

The second, is to save it in Bank E...and save only bank E. Thus you are loading the programs you want. Use Bank N if you need to bounce some around. This takes much longer...but it's free.

Actually, what I wanted was to be able to have all of them go to E, but some are going to K or L for some reason.

In Program press Menu. Select P2 (Edit - Pitch).

I can find where to choose how far the pitch will bend and how to set the ribbon controller to pitch bend, but what I was looking for was how to set what the joystick does in the Y direction and how to change different effects the ribbon controller can do.

1. Is there a way to set which bank loaded programs and combis go to?

You can determine exactly where you want to load entire bank of combis or programs or one by one combi or program. In MEDIA mode Extreme allows you to open .pcg structure and browse it down to a single program. Basically, you can load whatever you want wherever you want and there is no need for you to load entire .pcg structures and overwrite your existing ones. You can use one empty program bank (defaulted E) just for experimenting and every time load new programs just to that particular bank, but it's not a imperative in any way.

2. How do you set what the joystick and ribbon controller do?

Musicman222, the answer you gave is very limiting. Joystick and ribbon controller serve as modulation sources in every program controlling section. You can assign them to pitch bend modulation, filter and amplifier settings alternation, effect and LFO control...
Regarding chocojoe's question: one can set joystick and ribbon controller to his preferences. For example, my programs usually have joystick X axis for pitch band modulation, ribbon (lockable by switch 2) for amplifier modulation, joystick Y+ for vibrato and joystick Y- for wah or something similar. Also, you can use knobs for some more control over your sound.

3. How do you make your own programs?

Chocojoe, answering to this question would require explanation of each and every parameter in program edit mode, which is already done in Parameter Guide, but your question points to a fact you never read it. I don't mean to be rude, don't get me wrong, but you can't expect someone to write you here something that is already written. Please, do take some time and study what those parameters in program edit mode do and how they interact one with another.
Secondly, some knowledge about acoustic instruments is needed to recreate them in workstation. Obviously, same setup cannot work for some sax and some synth sound.
And finally, when you master parameters, you'll start to get some ideas which will lead you to creation of some unique sounds.
Program/sound creation isn't an easy process but your own effort to learn your workstation's possibilities is the best way to go.
And forum serves to point you to some tips and tricks not written in manual. That's what we are here for.

Regarding chocojoe's question: one can set joystick and ribbon controller to his preferences. For example, my programs usually have joystick X axis for pitch band modulation, ribbon (lockable by switch 2) for amplifier modulation, joystick Y+ for vibrato and joystick Y- for wah or something similar. Also, you can use knobs for some more control over your sound.

I guess my question was how do you choose what it does. For example, if -Y is doing wah, and I want it do be an octave pitch wheel bend how do I change that?

I don't mean to be rude, don't get me wrong, but you can't expect someone to write you here something that is already written.

I perfectly understand. If a question I ask can be answered in the manual, feel free to direct me to a portion of it.

I guess my question was how do you choose what it does. For example, if -Y is doing wah, and I want it do be an octave pitch wheel bend how do I change that?

We are spinning in circles here. Take one initialized program. Go to program edit mode, any menu you want and every where you see some parameter and next to it letters "AMS" it's something you can modulate with joystick. Play with this options for a while, to see what are they doing. You see, AMS stand for Alternate Modulation Source, and those are joystick, ribbon, switches, knobs and slider.

if -Y is doing wah, and I want it do be an octave pitch wheel bend how do I change that?

First you have to eliminate AMS applied to wah in effect section, program menu 8 (IFX) and 9 (MFX) or, if wah isn't caused by effect, but something like wah is caused by LFOs, go to program menu 5 (Edit-Common LFO), see if there is something assigned to -Y and set it to off. Do the same thing in filter and amp, if -Y in those menus is assigned to control LFO.
After you made sure -Y isn't controlling anything anymore, go to program menu 2 (Edit-Pitch), upper right portion of the screen where you have Pitch options, in section AMS and Intensity set AMS to JS-Y CC"02 and set Intensity to plus or minus 12.00. Now, moving joystick in minus axis will cause sound to pitch down or up to one octave in total.

If a question I ask can be answered in the manual, feel free to direct me to a portion of it.

Operation Guide and Parameter Guide - Program mode section. You see, everything workstation has to offer is in this section, besides sequencer. COMBI mode is so easy even a child can master it. But program mode is where sounds are created. If you don't read that, you can as well sell your workstation and buy something not programmable. And there are future bonuses as well - when you master one Korg's workstation, every future workstation will be easier for you to master. Put some effort.

Shrike,

No disrespect intended...but all of us haven't been playing with keyboards or even the Extreme that long. So it stands to reason that experience is on your side. There are some of us that are "new to the game" and we don't know where everything is yet.

I also understand that there is a manual...so we all need to read it. I'm with that, but...there is an:

* Easy Start Guide
* Operation Guide
* Parameter Guide
* Voice Name List
* Moss Guide

All of that can be a little intimidating. So we just dive right in, trying to learn and pick up pieces as we go along. We reference the documentation...but some features can be illusive. So people ask those questions here.

I also know that my answers are not going to be as good as, let's say, yours. I'm ok with that. But I would rather post something that could help someone...than force the "elders" of the group to answer very easy questions...like "I don't hear anything...what's wrong with it?!?" Us young lads can pick those up. And while it may take longer, and we may not be as detailed as you...we try.

Point being...I knew coming in I had a lot to learn. That doesn't intimidate me...it motivates me. So...I guess the rest of us will just keep reading, asking questions, and posting...until we all know everything.

I hope there is no hard feelings here, Musicman222 and Chocojoe.

My intention isn't to humiliate anyone, and I tend to be as friendly and helpful as can be, but what I want you to understand is that best results are achieved by your own work.

We reference the documentation...but some features can be illusive. So people ask those questions here.

And that's all I'm trying to convince you guys to do.

Don't be offended by me saying: "Musicman222, the answer you gave is very limiting." People tend to write here only fragments of their knowledge or something they have learned. I tend to give detailed explanations. That doesn't mean I think mine is better than yours. Every post benefits someone.

Peace,

shrike

I think what shrike is trying to say is, "get intimidated and don't stop reading and re-reading!"

Point is, when I first bought a keyboard, I had no clue as to what an LFO was - complete beginner. I would ask the forums and I got the answer but it didn't help me to understand. What worked was endless nights of google and reading the manual. As I came to a brick wall I could, "...tried the edit menu and went to IFX and selected the destination for CC# (whatever number here). Still nothing, am I missing another step. OP guide says nothing more from what I can tell."

No one is passing the buck or trying to be lazy and especially not trying to bash someone for their lack of knowledge (I don't think Sharp or Daz would deal with that too kindly anyway). I believe you had the right answer but to understand "why" would probably most likely be explained in trying and trying again the descriptions and how to's in all the manuals.

Deep editing and creating new sounds takes a lot of time and you develop talent by working through that. Same with sampling - it's a learning curve at first but becomes a talent as you sift through all the foreign terms and explanations.

I will type books to try and help anyone out (as they did for me on this forum) but, if someone hasn't learned some of the basics of the Korg Operating System and become familiar with the design of the keybaord then, chances are, I would be doing them more harm than good!!

RVNOak, you got the point.

One has to learn how to walk in order to run later.

chocojoe wrote:3. How do you make your own programs? I've been downloading ones people have created, but have been curious about how they go about doing it.

I've finished school only for that and i am still trying to figure out how to do it...after 15 years of doing it...

No hard feelings Shrike.

I was just pointing out that some people have been doing this so long...or are so good at what they do...they do things automatically, without much thought at all...when others have to really understand the concept first, before they can do the same thing.

I wish I was that good now...but I'll get there eventually. Thanks for the AMS detail. Didn't know that.

I'll be saving this topic, because it has some good info in it.

Peace,
Musicman222

Thank you Shrike. The info on AMS was very helpful!