Is this a practicable setup? Kaoss Pad 3 + Alesis Contrl Pad

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mikriss
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Is this a practicable setup? Kaoss Pad 3 + Alesis Contrl Pad

Post by mikriss »

Greetings!
I would like to use the kaoss pad 3 to pimp up my performance on edrums. 8)
Now I ask myself how I could contol it. I would like to switch it on and off during my drumplay, to add effect only to cirtain phrases.
The Alesis Control pad seems to be a good solution. Now I have some questions about midi-control with this combination:
1.) Do you think, I could switch the effect on and off using the control pad? I thought maybe I could use a "blank" preset for the unprocessed material and other presets for the processed material.
2.) When switching presets, can I switch lets say from "User 1" directly to "User 3", or can you change presets only step by step?
3.) Or is there a better way to control the kaoss pad during drumplay?
Actually, a food switch to switch it on and off at the "Hold" position would be enough for me, the rest I could do manually. But I dont know of any small MIDI-Footswitches... maybe you know.
4.) A question beside is: do you think, the auto - bmp is good enough to follow my drumplay?

Thank you for any comments. I just wanted to make shure it works the way I want to use it, before I start to spend a lot of money. :roll:
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Post by SMK »

This could work for you as a latching sample on sample off switch for you...I have not gotten the KP3 sample pads to trigger as momentary.

The foot switch route might be cheaper and you get alot more options for your money. Check out the behringer 1010 fsb.
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Post by mikriss »

I dont have the place to place the behringer 1010 fsb between the drumpedals. It also would feature more, than I could really need and use. :?
I'm dreaming of a midi-footswitch mounted on my right-food bassdrumpedal. Like one e-organs have where you start a fill-in. But I havent found a programmable midi-footswitch, and unfortunately the kaoss pad has no footswitch-connector.
Even better would be wireless drumsticks where you could control your effects during play. 8)
But that will still take a long time from now, until you can buy those. I hope, the developers will catch up soon.

As long I have to think of something else.

My main concern is, if the chaos pad would be controllable good enough, that I could start and stop its effect-processing via hitting a pad on the Alesis Control pad. The Alesis Control pad seems really flexible in terms of midi, I am not shure jet, how this two units work together. In the manual of the kaoss pad I read stuff like

Touch pad X-axis Control change (#12)
Touch pad Y-axis Control change (#13)
Touch pad on/off Control change (#92)
LEVEL Slider Control change (#93)
FX DEPTH knob Control change (#94)
HOLD button Control change (#95)
SAMPLE BANK A button note on/off (#36)
SAMPLE BANK B button note on/off (#37)
SAMPLE BANK C button note on/off (#38 )
SAMPLE BANK D button note on/off (#39)
PROGRAM/BPM knob Program change (0–127)
Timing clock

Now I wonder if the Alesis controller pad sends Controller change or just Note on/off, what would be more logic for a Drum-Controller.

Which of the above would I have to "speak" to, to tell the Kaoss pad to start or stop effect-processing? Touch pad on/off?

Pobably its just the best to organize the equipment, and try it out, and then decide what to do next.
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Post by mikriss »

I got it figured out now:
I'm gonna look deeper into the Pioneer EFX-1000.
I just wanted to let other edrummers know, who want to add some effects to their live-play. This Pioneer unit you can easily swith on and off with a "standart plug", no midi is needed, which I will mount on my basedrum pedal as mentioned before. :wink:
The Pioneer doesn't have the FX-Release function, but it seems that you cant have it all in 2008.
Ade.
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