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Hey guys,

Basically what I want to do is assign effects controls to the assignable knobs. I have read sections of the parameter guide, but it seems a little cryptic to me. I would like to do the following, but don't know how:

Knob 1 = IFX1 (Distortion)
Knob 2 = MFX1 (Chorus)
Knob 3 = IFX3 (Delay)
Knob 4 = MFX2 (Reverb)

If you are wondering why...I play live. I'm not always a keyboard player...sometimes I play guitar. We are somewhat limited on channels, and I play keyboard 95% of the time. So I just created a patch...a Combination (though I should use a Program I guess)...that is set to just use one of the inputs on the back of my TEX61, for my guitar. Currently I am just using acoustic, but I could use one of my electrics if I understood how to use the TEX effects better.

I do have 2 separate pedalboards for both my acoustic and electric setups. It's just I don't want to carry in a whole other case for one or two songs in a set.

If anyone can clear this up for me...I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks everyone,
Musicman222

Hello,

You did not mention what parameters of these effects You want to control, so I assume this is basicaly wet/dry setting.
Try following (program/combi/seq mode):
- MENU->P8(Insert Effect)
- choose IFX1 tab, at the bottom of screen there is "Wet/Dry" setting and to the right You choose source of modulation ("Src"): KnobM1, and set desired amount of modulation ("Amt") caused by movements of knob1
- the same for IFX3 - use KnobM2 instead
- as for master effects: MENU->P9 (Master Effect)
- choose MFX1 tab
- You can see same Wet/Dry setting at the bottom of screen - do the assigment in same way as with IFX, just use KnobM3
- same for MFX2, use KnobM4

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Thanks KrzysiekK,

I didn't mention specifics...but yes Wet/Dry level was the original assumption. That does answer my question.

But, what if I wanted to control the delay time, or delay feedback, or reverb time or the chorus depth. Let's say I wanted to set the 4 knobs up as a parametric EQ...how would I do that.

Can the knobs control the volume of different programs in a Combi?

I guess a deeper question is, can I assign just about anything to the knobs, ribbon controller, and joystick...or is there a list of stuff that I have to choose from? Once I know this, how do I go about assigning different functions to them?

Now, what if I want to set my Delay to a tap tempo? How do I do that? I have an external foot-switch. So how do I set it to do that?

Yes, I know I'm all over the place on this one. But I have so many questions about how to use this stuff.

Thank you again for the quick response.

Musicman222

Musicman222 wrote: But, what if I wanted to control the delay time, or delay feedback, or reverb time or the chorus depth. Let's say I wanted to set the 4 knobs up as a parametric EQ...how would I do that.

please refer to manual: PG p. 217-269 - There are all the parameters explained, some of them have "D-mod" icon - this means that this particular parameter of given effect may be controlled by Triton controllers (knobs/slider/ribbon, etc).

Can the knobs control the volume of different programs in a Combi?

Sorry I have no direct solution for this problem (only through external signal routing trick; IMO Triton is much better in control of an external MIDI equipment when it comes to control separation). Calling shrike for help

I guess a deeper question is, can I assign just about anything to the knobs, ribbon controller, and joystick...or is there a list of stuff that I have to choose from?

see above

Now, what if I want to set my Delay to a tap tempo? How do I do that? I have an external foot-switch. So how do I set it to do that?

I am not sure what You want here. Tempo tapping function can be assigned to the foot switch in GLOBAL->P2 ("foot switch assign"). If You want delay taps to be synced with tempo, choose appriopriate BPM synced delay from effects list.

Best regards,
Krzysiek

KrzysiekK,

Since you set the knob controls in the IFX / MFX screens...can 1 knob control more than one thing? Example:

IFX1 = L\C\R Delay
IFX2 = Hall Reverb

Can knob3 control the wet/dry sound of the delay and the reverb while knob4 controls the delay feedback? Why do this...I don't know, just because??? Many times if I adjust the reverb wetness, I will also adjust the delay the same amount. If so this could free up another knob.

Thanks,
Musicman222

Musicman222 wrote: IFX1 = L\C\R Delay
IFX2 = Hall Reverb

yes, of course, simply set same mod Src (KnobM1) for both delay and reverb.

knob4 controls the delay feedback?

as soon as D-mod is available for the feedback parameter.

Can the knobs control the volume of different programs in a Combi?

Sort of workaround: set AMS parameters for Amp stage of individual programs, before putting them together into Combi.


Example

Program 1: MENU->P4 (AMP) -> Amp1 Mod tab -> Amp Modulation
set AMS to "KnobMod1"; experiment with "Intensity" value
repeat the same for Amp2 Mod if program structure is doubleosc

Program 2: MENU->P4 (AMP) -> Amp1 Mod tab -> Amp Modulation
set AMS to "KnobMod2"; experiment with "Intensity" value
repeat the same for Amp2 Mod if program structure is doubleosc

etc.

Now in combi use Program 1, Program 2, ... - You can control volume (amp, actually) of these programs separately using Knob1 (Program 1) and Knob2 (Program 2), ...

Have on mind however that this is just a synthesizer Amp stage tweaking, not a channel volume just like in Mixer.

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Can the knobs control the volume of different programs in a Combi?

No. You can control only one timbre with only one knob. Why this is so, God knows. Knob has option to control volume - timbre volume in COMBI mode. It can also control master volume, but that's not what interests us here. Well, when you set one timbre's volume to be controlled with knob, that works fine. But if you set any other timbre's volume to be controlled with another knob, not the first one, that doesn't work. I tried everything I could think of, but I couldn't find any solution to control two or more timbres with four different knobs when it comes to timbre's volume. Must be some internal limit.

Two workarounds I found usefull:
1. Stereo compressor effect - route timbres you want to control during playing, I mean alter their volumes, to stereo compressor effect. This effect can be modulated in wet/dry with any AMS. So, set compressor ratio to some value where sound will be at it's volume peak. Then set it to be modulated with knob 1 and make some minus value. Now when you turn knob 1 all sounds routed to this effect will be volumed up or down, regarding of direction where you turn the knob. For instant oscilation in volume, don't use knob but switch 1 or 2. Set some minus value and assign it to switch 1, for example, then, when you press switch 1, sound will be instantly volumed down.
Benefits: you can control several timbres's volume levels with several modulation sources, with easy use of several compressor effects, each timbre routed to it's effect, or all timbres that needs to be modulated simultaneously routed to same effect.
Losses: stereo compressor effect add some character to sound, not desirable with woodwinds, pianos and some gentle strings, as I found out. Several timbres assigned to same compressor effect weaken this effect in total.

2. You can use stereo limiter effect. Same thing as above. It can actually be used to make louder sound. No, I'm not crazy, so I'll repeat. It can be used to make sound louder. Just play with ratio and threshold. But be gentle. If you push it to hard, you'll hear artefacts. Also can be modulated with all AMS.

Calling shrike for help

I was working all day, didn't see this till now. How is your board, everything fine now?

Thanks for the help guys. I was able to assign the effects I wanted to the knobs, and it worked...but I ran into a problem.

I tried to create a Program from Bank E on an Initial Program (like it ships from the factory...basically a blank program). The problem I ran into was that the knobs were assigned to Non-Effects...like sustain and volume. Is there a way to turn default everything the knobs are doing to off, before I start tweaking? Or do I have to go through everything, trying to figure out what the knob is doing...then tun it off. There has to be an easy way to do this.

Thoughts? Ideas?
Musicman222

Just above the knobs you have one button which assignes knobs to control predefined parameters (cuttof etc), assignable parameters (one you choose in program edit menu) or valve force parameters.

In program edit menu, in the first menu you have leftmost tab controllers; there you can override any setting assigned to knob or any other AMS. In order for knobs to control what you assigned to them, you need to make match those settings, for example, for Knob 1 assign Knob 1 mod, for Knob 2 assign Knob 2 mod. You get the picture?

With these settings set to knobs and control button for knobs set to "assignable" you are sure knobs will control only those parameters you select to be modulated with them.

Where is the main fuss mostly - musicians tweak some parameters to be controled for instance with Knob 1, but do not change them to control assignable parameters but default parameters or valve force. After this they twist the knob, parameter they choose alters but cuttof frequency or valve force strength also alters. Or they set knobs to control assignable parameters but in control tab in program's edit first menu they don't set Knob mod for each Knob but something else, like master volume or something.

Thanks shrike,

I'll try what you said out tonight at band practice and get back with you tomorrow. I'm at work, programming, and the only keyboards around here are attached to computers and don't produce sound.

Musicman222