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Hey guys,

I was extremely excited when I learned that my TEX could load samples that could be mapped out as instruments. To me this meant that I was no longer limited to the sounds within the TEX, but I could load other sounds.

Thanks to this wonderful site...I have found a lot of sounds in the downloads section. But now I'm looking for more and I have come to a dead end. What I'm really wanting to know is, where can I find more sounds and samples for this thing. I would love to be able to get some Motif sounds on this thing. Don't get me wrong...I wouldn't trade my TEX for any other keyboard...I just love it. But I would like to take a few founds from here and a few sounds from there...and only carry one keyboard.

Another question...When I upgrade to 96MB of RAM...about how many instruments will that hold? Just curious. I know the results will vary, but a ballpark number would be nice.

Honestly I really want to add some good Hammond sounds and some nice strings. Maybe some horns.

I would be very grateful with any help that you guys could provide.

Thank you,
Musicman222

http://www.sf2midi.com/

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

This sites contain SF2 files. You can easily extract waves out of SF2 files and create .kmp structures recognizable by Extreme. With some softwares you can even convert SF2 files to .ksc (ksf, kmp and ksc are native Triton formats). There could be some legal issues (eventual copyrights) with those files, so check that out first.

http://www.ksounds.com/html/triton.htm

Piano samples and .pcg (sounds) available to buy.



http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=37106

Valuable forum member KrzysiekK converted supreme string samples for us so you might check them out.

As for Motif sounds, I don't know for any sample library made from Motif. You can sample Motif. There are some that consider this as sound theft or something like that, doubtfully legal, since it's basically playing Yamaha sounds on Korg machine. Suit yourself in this matter.

about how many instruments will that hold?

This depends on many factors, all related to quality of samples used in one multisample. You can have few sounds that uses all Extreme's RAM memory or you can have hundreds of sounds in same capacity.

shrike,

My goal was never to cheat a company out of money, or do something not legal. I was only looking for a way to use some of Yamaha's great sounds with my awesome TEX.

I'm looking into a Motif Rack unit. I haven't decided between an ES and the XS. Keep in mind, I am only wanting sounds. I was just looking for the least expensive way to get them.

I love my TEX for just about everything...but I am wanting a few sounds here and there that sound better to me.

Thanks,
Musicman222

I wasn't even accusing you for doing or intending to do something illegal.
I pointed "there are some that consider" sampling Motif to Extreme as something illegal. I'm not among them. I don't think it's copyright violation. I think that if I sample basic sound from Motif (I don't know what is Motif equivalent for Extreme's preset multisample so am little blurry here) it is reproduction of that sound, not exactly the same thing. If I extract (by some means currently unfamiliar to me) basic sounds from Motif and load them to Extreme, that would be copyright violation. Sampled sound is close reproduction to original sound, not exactly the same sound. There is also obvious difficulty to prove which instrument sounds does one sampler use. Today, when every serious workstation has a sampler, companies would be very unrealistic if they expect users not to sample instruments one to another, especially if one bought instruments from many brands.

Don't understand this as "go for it and sample Motif". I'm just making a point here.

shrike,

I wasn't saying that you were accusing me, only that those things were not my intention. I'm a musician, not a lawyer...so I usually only think about the music and the sounds. If I were to cross a line, it wouldn't be deliberate.

My problem is that I need a great sound, not an ok sound. When I play keyboard...it's hard to get by with less than 2. Then I have acoustic guitar...and if there are more than 3 songs...I have a rig for that. I also have electric guitar, and if it's more than 1 song...I have a separate rig for that. By this time I have to haul around 2 keyboards, a Keyboard amp, 3 guitars (1 acoustic, 2 electric), a rig for acoustic and a rig for electric guitar...amps for both...and let's not forget all the mics and stands.

LOL...I'm just looking for a way to get good tone from less equipment. It's hard to fit a studio in a trailer.

Thanks,
Musicman222

Yes, I know what you mean. Since you are a guitarist also, you'll be hardly satisfied with guitars keyboard has to offer. Motif is maybe better in this area then Extreme, that's what users say anyway, I don't have Motif so can't tell.

Did you consider making your own guitar samples? IMO, that would be best option. Choose several guitar sounds you just can't perform without, make samples out of them and use them on your keyboard. If you seek for perfection in sound, that's how you will achieve it.

I had the same problem with accordion samples. All commercially available or downloadable aren't good enough or don't sound as I want them to sound. So I made my own. Four months of hard work and 30,3 MB of samples, but now I'm happy.

shrike,

Thanks for the advice. I doubt I will be sampling my guitar tones. Have you ever heard that "the tone is in the hands"??? Guitar players know this to be true. If you were able to take Jimi Hendrix and SRV and make them swap gear...(everything just change the person playing the rig)...you would be able to tell who is who just by listening to the way they play. So tone is not just in the notes, it's in the hands. An open E string and the same note more than 5 frets down the neck sound different. It's really hard for a keyboard to replicate these kinds of things.

Ideally, I could get all the sounds I like in one keyboard, and all the processing power for acoustics and electrics in one rig. That would cut down on half my gear. I don't see this happening any time soon. But good sound is worth it.

Who knows...I might sample a lead tone...just to see how close I can get it.

Thanks,
Musicman222

You'll never know how good sample can be until you make dozen of your own, that's one thing I understood while sampling my materials. People used to tell me how hard it is, how sampling is an art you need ten years to master, how only big studios with big masters with expensive gear can do it etc etc. I don't see it that way.

First ten libraries of my samples didn't work well, couldn't be programmed to simulate live instrument and were actually worse than factory samples. But I was improving my methods each time and learning new things. Finally I created samples and programs which work like charm.

I know it's a specific situation with guitars since you can produce same tone on different string and fret, but I also know you can play chromatic scale through several octaves on guitar just like on keyboard. Well, I would play that scale and sample string and fret positions played in that scale. This would get me enough samples to shame any preset guitar multisample. Just an idea, which I'm going to exploit to sample string instruments characteristic for my country folklore.

I suggest you do sample one lead tone, maybe with method I described, don't bother your self with multiple tone possibilities. You can always simulate them with careful programming and Extreme's engine is quite capable.