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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:15 pm
by Dr.InnoVation
jrocko31 wrote:
Dr.InnoVation wrote:
jrocko31 wrote:hello,

do you use samples or just the built in sounds?
I use the internal samples first and foremost.
Then I program the PCG's extensively.
Insert them into Combination mode, and created the Combi's after doing so.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
Would this be something of interest to you?

hello,
glad to hear this because i don't have RAM space for additional samples in my TEX.anyway,great job!!!!
The really cool part is that I saved these as global files as well as the PCG/Combi data, so all you have to do is load, execute and have the entire soundset in the user bank, then IF you have your own sounds in there you can load those at the drop of the hat, provided you saved those as well! Easy, simple and only takes up room on either CF, or USB storage!

(not to mention the fact we're talking about kilobytes lol!)


More demo's coming! Stay Tuned...

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:46 pm
by timbukktwo
oops-

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:14 pm
by timbukktwo
Dr.- I'm sorry; I hope to explain better. [I don't intend to make something simple confusing]. In reference to the following sentence below, it seems you intend (to me) to use internal (rom-?) pcm as much as possible (but not always) to create the sounds. A definition of foremost means ranking above 'all others', as if you may not always use internal pcm rom in creating the sounds (except when you state so: using external samples). The main reason I would like to know this is because if you are using only internal pcm rom to tweak these sounds, I find it incredible that this can be done this well [not really, though!]. There is so much sonic potential inside of tex (as other keyboards) it blows my mind when one takes time to work with the sounds [like you]! Especially, when compared with those who say a keyboard is 'played-out'! (i.e.- when is a classic violin ever played-out!). I never believed this anyway! I cite a phrase to myself that goes " . . . only an algorithm away from an awesome sound never heard" -meaning, irregardless of how many times one has heard that so-called 'SAME ole' PLAYED-OUT' sound, one tweak and WHAM! INSPIRATION!!! Something NEW and DIFFERENT!

The second reason is if I purhase any of your collections, I merely want to know if I would be able to tell when I would be using a rom pcm-tweaked sound vs. an external sample you've created. That's all. I'd be interested in any drum/snare/percussive patches you may have as well. Again, great job! -Tim

Dr.InnoVation wrote- "I use the internal samples 'first and foremost.'"

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:57 pm
by Dr.InnoVation
Next post.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:59 pm
by Dr.InnoVation
timbukktwo wrote:Dr.- I'm sorry; I hope to explain better. [I don't intend to make something simple confusing]. In reference to the following sentence below, it seems you intend (to me) to use internal (rom-?) pcm as much as possible (but not always) to create the sounds. A definition of foremost means ranking above 'all others', as if you may not always use internal pcm rom in creating the sounds (except when you state so: using external samples). The main reason I would like to know this is because if you are using only internal pcm rom to tweak these sounds, I find it incredible that this can be done this well [not really, though!]. There is so much sonic potential inside of tex (as other keyboards) it blows my mind when one takes time to work with the sounds [like you]! Especially, when compared with those who say a keyboard is 'played-out'! (i.e.- when is a classic violin ever played-out!). I never believed this anyway! I cite a phrase to myself that goes " . . . only an algorithm away from an awesome sound never heard" -meaning, irregardless of how many times one has heard that so-called 'SAME ole' PLAYED-OUT' sound, one tweak and WHAM! INSPIRATION!!! Something NEW and DIFFERENT!

The second reason is if I purhase any of your collections, I merely want to know if I would be able to tell when I would be using a rom pcm-tweaked sound vs. an external sample you've created. That's all. I'd be interested in any drum/snare/percussive patches you may have as well. Again, great job! -Tim
Oh, I get it now:oops:
You know, sometimes I use words I don't really grasp well-sorta like "The Princess Bride" where Inigo tells Vincinni. "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means?"

Yes, everyone of my custom PCG's and Combi's are done soley and proprietorially on the Triton Extreme using variations of samples internally...Basically It took a year, see how certain changes interacted with others. I'm a weird one, that's for sure, but I can tell you that I identified with this board and had the utmost determination to make these sounds.

It's hard as heck to find a guitarist in my area that doesn't charge arms and legs considering I haven't the funds to get one either.

I will be including a patch list I've created with all new different names.
What you will only need to do is load the sounds into the Extreme and they will load into a User bank.
Note that "if" and only If you have user patches within the Extreme all you'll need to do is to save those (I did so globally) and the fun part is-is at any time you wish to recall factory settings, my soundsets, or yours:

all you have to do is execute whatever files you are importing within the Triton Extreme, the Triton Extreme will make it so!

I am working on additional sounds as I post here, trying to cram as much sound data as I can for the file you and hopefully others will want to get.

I am no businessman, above all.
I am just a musicman like you all. In my case I just "had" to have these sounds. They truly add so much depth.

I love analog, but I don't have that gear.
So, I also have very lush, warm, ambient, and atmospheric tones which will be included as well!
What I tried to do is create one sound for these "pads" which will be dynamic, and real in a sort of fantasy-realm sort of way.

Being extremely forthcoming:
I demo'd Ministry of Rock
Steinberg's Virtual Guitarist among other VST's which offer guitar sounds.

M.O.R is priced at the minimum $400.00
Steinberg's is half that but it is also less than half as good
While I realize I don't have an expansion card I'm selling that you have to connect like an SRX board, I won't be pricing it like that either. Also, the Steinberg- while some sounds are decent some are limited to phrases and riffs. In a way it sort of inhibits creativity if you can't make the idea in your head become a reality on tape, or a recording-should you want to.

In short I won't be pricing it very high.
The number one thing I really want to do is have composers and beat makers a value oriented "product" along with the purchase price.

I have "shopped" around, played the M3 extensively, the Oasys88, and every other board I've ever come across or demo'd and being totally up front I have never heard these sounds, at their fidelity nor sound quality/playability...They are different and unique. I won't say they're better than "X" because I can't say. This is for the listener to decide.

To give you and others the basic idea behind the sounds I've created:
I took the basic PCG's as any Professional Korg developer did, and created a nice assortment of guitars, piano, strings, drum kits and more...

The difference is is that in addition to the fantastic job Korg did with the Extreme (and the fact I'm not a professional programmer either), I took it a bit further and spent an entire year, tweaking the many combinations (not combi's) the many combinations of the:

5 insert effects
2 master
cutoff
resonance
release
oscillators,
monophonic and polyphonic tone manipulation: basically all settings internally were tweaked, both at the PCG and at the Combi level, then sort of like DNA, I recombined them sometimes splicing the data of one PCG, and another-using the different characteristics of the sample data I was able to make guitars that use the type of playing guitarists use today! Some use as many as 5 to 10 voices, but polyphony does not so run out so quickly: because not all sounds are triggered by the same trigger, such as velocity, or soft playing nor do they play all at the same time, or at different octaves or timbre positions.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:32 am
by timbukktwo
Dear Mr. Next- What a blast!

Gotcha! (I follow). Thank you for that! That's mind-bending work right there! And appreciated!! One question, though. With 'Behind the Shadows, I Wait', is this from internal pcm rom, or sample? Based on the original post, it seems from sampled material. That's the reason for all of this, perhaps - the difference from 'Triton.Extreme.Demo.Guitars' and 'Behind the Shadows, I Wait'. -Tim

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:51 am
by Dr.InnoVation
timbukktwo wrote:Dear Mr. Next- What a blast!

Gotcha! (I follow). Thank you for that! That's mind-bending work right there! And appreciated!! One question, though. With 'Behind the Shadows, I Wait', is this from internal pcm rom, or sample? Based on the original post, it seems from sampled material. That's the reason for all of this, perhaps - the difference from 'Triton.Extreme.Demo.Guitars' and 'Behind the Shadows, I Wait'. -Tim
No problem!

Behind the Shadows I wait utilizes ALL internal Read Only Memory (ROM)

The "Triton.Extreme.Demo.Guitars was done entirely with one guitar combi "Police Muted" (my name to that custom soundset) -just manipulated and played with different features, such as a wah, muted, distortion and velocity.


Basically all songs I've posted here are 100% solely from my custom soundset
just to demonstrate the subtle and effective nuances that are inherent in the combi's I've made (such as playing different styles can yield entirely different results based on the method of playing). :wink:

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:05 am
by timbukktwo
Wow, I'm even more impressed! I understand, now, that in the description of 'Behind the Shadows, I Wait' in the first post -the instruments given were EMULATED, not sampled [further crediting your work with only internal pcm rom]. MY misunderstanding.

I'm highly intrigued by your work. No promises yet, however, I'd be interested in a possible purchase from you not too far down the road. I have to wrap up a few things with my 'studio' financially in the next 5 months or so. If you'd please post any further [mp3's,etc.] of what you may have for sale, that'd be great! You DESERVE to be paid!! -Tim

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:35 am
by Dr.InnoVation
timbukktwo wrote:Wow, I'm even more impressed! I understand, now, that in the description of 'Behind the Shadows, I Wait' in the first post -the instruments given were EMULATED, not sampled [further crediting your work with only internal pcm rom]. MY misunderstanding.

I'm highly intrigued by your work. No promises yet, however, I'd be interested in a possible purchase from you not too far down the road. I have to wrap up a few things with my 'studio' financially in the next 5 months or so. If you'd please post any further [mp3's,etc.] of what you may have for sale, that'd be great! You DESERVE to be paid!! -Tim
Hey, man thanks for the nice words!-I really really appreciate it.

I'm working on more demo's so stay tuned.
They'll be out soon enough for your ears!

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:55 pm
by timbukktwo
Thanks again- Well, one LAST question (ha). Is it your intention to sell a user/combi bank as a whole where included would be all or most of the commonly desired patches (piano, guitar, drum, etc.,etc.,etc.), or is there a different way you prefered to go about this? (Have you even thought about it this far, yet, or does it matter?)

By the way, I'm curious, do you have exb-moss? -Tim

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:05 am
by Dr.InnoVation
timbukktwo wrote:Thanks again- Well, one LAST question (ha). Is it your intention to sell a user/combi bank as a whole where included would be all or most of the commonly desired patches (piano, guitar, drum, etc.,etc.,etc.), or is there a different way you prefered to go about this? (Have you even thought about it this far, yet, or does it matter?)

By the way, I'm curious, do you have exb-moss? -Tim

Currently, I do not have the EXB Moss. I'll be getting that in about a month or so down the road...My main focuses when developing these custom sound-sets were drums and guitars, however I have so many different types of sounds not just one )Acoustic, electric, strats, etc...)

In addition to the drum kits and guitars I will also have warm pads, piano's and multi-layered sounds, although to be frank for the price the guitars alone would be worth it if only they were the only sounds to be released. Which is why I've made more sounds and have released fully made compositions using only my sounds within them
:wink:

What I won't be doing is releasing just "guitars" for one soundset, then another soundset for say "pianos." They will ALL be ready to download once the PCG, and combi data have been properly structured and finalized.

I hope this helps.

Warmest Regards,
Jiovanni Benussi

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:11 pm
by LTEDT
Can't wait...

I've never been a fan of triton extreme's drum kit. I always tweaked them but still never liked them that much....and knowing drums, pianos, pads, guitars and more sounds are there in the soundset is making me really wanting it!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:03 pm
by timbukktwo
Thanks again, Dr.- (I gotcha'). . . As I'm not immediately ready to purchase, but am always around, I'm keeping my ears open for more demos & for when you're finished putting this together (and I'm also ready). This buys me time!! -Tim

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:54 pm
by mezzojammer
that van halen lead is fantastic.(as are the other tones)
I could really make use of that not being a great solo player on guitar.
Do you have any idea when the soundset will be ready to purchase and where from? Also how much? :)

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:20 am
by Dr.InnoVation
mezzojammer wrote:that van halen lead is fantastic.(as are the other tones)
I could really make use of that not being a great solo player on guitar.
Do you have any idea when the soundset will be ready to purchase and where from? Also how much? :)

Hi MezzoJammer! I'm really glad you like the sounds :wink:
I totally agree with you on not being a great solo player on guitar as well!

The soundset should be ready to go in about 2 1/2 weeks...
I'm in the process of obtaining an online store this way it will be easy for both seller and buyer to make it happen efficiently. If I'm not able to have this done in time I'll have some sort of delivery available in that time.

Please PM me, or email me @

jiovannibenussi@australia.edu -thanks for your interest.