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MrKorg and nabil_kh2 don't like Bavas, I get that, but talk is cheap boys
I think it more reflects yourself mate. You were the one who came here for help we didn't go fetching for you. :roll: :roll:

At the end of the day your keyboard is wrecked and ours is in the best state :wink:
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Thanks Reuben (John), that is a good point. I was surprised at the reliance the repairer seemed to have on Music Link sending him technical information. Anyways, hopefully all will be well before too long. Bye.
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Post by Rob Sherratt »

Hi Brian,

I've been following the thread and can fully understand your frustration trying to get what appears to be a hardware fault fixed under warranty. I'm sorry I could do no more to help other than eliminating the possibility of any software or data corruption problem.

Even a competent hi-tech repair shop like Rytron will not necessarily have the service manuals for every product they can repair - it doesn't surprise me that they would have to get the correct service manual from the distributor - Music Link. The circuitry inside the Pa keyboards is far too complex to trace faults without schematics to assist.

Anyway, I hope you get your keyboard back in full working condition soon.

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Hello Rob,
the thing is, Rytron did have the service manual, they told me Music-Link had emailed it to them before I delivered the keyboard.
That makes your post even more disturbing :shock:.
In some respects I think I should have held on to the beast and just let it warm up, it was fine once it did, and it is 3 weeks tomorrow :cry:
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I think there simply are not enough of these keyboards about for any local repairers to know much about them.
That is a major issue with relatively small countries all around the world - inexperienced service guys because there are so few faults to fix! It also shows that, by and large, Korg products are very reliable. Even in a "small" country like Australia, if most keyboards of a particular model had faults, the service guys would quickly get to know them. But that's simply not the case - the norm is that Korg products work.

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Finally, this situation moves toward a resolution. As it turns out Rob if the repairer, Rytron, and Tony, the Music-Link rep. had followed your advice, things may have been different. I did, by the way, provide your advice in writing to Rytron. But it seems they were determined to ignore it.
nabil_kh2 and mrkorg are right about Bavas, (with the exception of Frank who I think is a great guy and does what he can for his customers,) Bavas post sales are a disgrace. I will never purchase from them again.

I also should have taken the early advice of steve m and just called Music-Link. In retrospect I was a goose on that score, so thanks for the advice.
Here is how it unfolded today Tuesday 11/11/08:

Rang Allan at Rytron who said he had emailed Tony and had yet to hear back. I asked him to pack it up as I was taking it back to Bavas. Calls to Bavas were ignored after we were told Frank would be in this afternoon. Nic was in but would not take calls from myself or Shanae, my partner. We then rang the Dept. of Fair Trading who informed us we were entitled to a refund or replacement and to write a letter with a ‘due by’ date on a replacement. Shanae finally got through to Nic (as he answered the phone) and Nic said he would get onto it but would not immediately call back with any details on a replacement thought he did agree on replacing the unit. He told us Tony from Music-Link has had a heart attack. He said he needed a RA number from Music-Link and gave Shanae Music-Link’s number. Shanae called and spoke to Jaman who said he had taken over from Tony’s Korg customers while he was sick and was unaware of any problem whatsoever. When Shanae explained the situation and how it was still unresolved, he was most helpful. He would organise to pick up the old unit from Rytron and would deliver a new unit to our door.
Then Tony from Music-Link called and aplogised for the delay. He said he had had a stroke but was nonetheless communicating with Kork in Italy by email. They confirmed they have had some trouble with masterboards. He apologised and took full responsibility for the saga. I told him to look after himself and that's all she wrote! :roll: :D
Thanks for your help and interest, especially you Rob, bye, Brian
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p.s. having paid out on Bavas, I would like to add that, in my experience, they are the most price competitive music shop in Australia.
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mrbptc wrote:p.s. having paid out on Bavas, I would like to add that, in my experience, they are the most price competitive music shop in Australia.
I used them quiet a bit when i lived in Australia a few years ago. It took me a while to get what i wanted but at least they had a nice attitude!!! They're not the best, but not the worst either.
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:D WELL, I HAVE THE NEW KORG, PRAISE THE STARS!

Although I appreciate Rob's honest and frank appraisal of the current Pa2xPro situation and do find it rather disturbing (he has unquestionably dispelled the myth he works for Korg, lol), nonetheless I am absolutely delighted and excited :lol: . Thanks again for the input :wink:
:D seeya
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Post by Rob Sherratt »

Hi Brian,

I am sure that the faults with the design and/or manufacture of the Pa2x would not be apparent on some customers' keyboards, and I hope that your new board turns out to be 100% reliable.

However there are a number of aspects about the faults that are being reported and which I experienced myself that led me to the very outspoken remarks that I made recently in the sticky thread. Because the faults are intermittent and hardware related they are most apparent during long periods of continuous operation when the internal components are hot. Also the problems are more apprent in hotter climates.

I wouldn't have put myself in this adversarial position had the response from Korg's labs, service centers, or Korg presence on this forum, shown that an adequate level of after sales support.

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Hey Rob,
I really do appreciate all the time you have taken in helping me :D .
Also, having read you posts over the months I understand the level of ignorance required to force you into such dramatic statements. The fact that you withdrew from any project communication with Korg before giving your personal opinion speaks volumes for your integrity.
This is how Korg have damaged their reputation on this site, by treating someone with such knowledge, diplomacy, and sincerity, with seemingly blatant disregard. If that's how you are treated, what chance the rest of us? :?
Thanks again for your time and help.
Brian
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