Exporting track by track from the Oasys sequencer?

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:26 pm

When I have a finished song in Logic it's very easy to export each track as a single audio-file in various file-formats, bit-ratios and kHz-ratios (no matter if the source is midi or audio). Is there a similar function on the Oasys? Or will I have to create audio-tracks manually for each midi-track / audio-track?

(Reason: I have to give the Midi and Audio-Tracks without effects to a Studio for a professional mix - the studio asked for wav or aiff files with 44,1 kHz and 24 bit for mixing and later on mastering)

Swampfox · Post by **Swampfox** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:59 am

I hate to say it...although I could be wrong...but the only way you're going to convert midi from your oasys into a WAV file will be to record in realtime...well, probably not the only way but the fastest. The downside as you well know is that you can only do one track at a time unless you go analog(no thanks) Sucks... thats exactly the reason why I'd love to get my hands on one of those EXB-DI cards. I'd love the ability to record 8 digital tracks simultaneously.

If I'm wrong I do apologize...

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:15 am

Well, if that's the case I could record the Midi-Tracks into Logic as well.

Any other hints?

sirCombatWombat · Post by **sirCombatWombat** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:16 pm

I seem to remember that the audio tracks are already in separate .WAV files on the disk, in their respective folders under the song folder? Named something like ATRACK01, etc. Can't check right now.

Btw. Why would you need to give MIDI files to the studio?

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:28 pm

My guess ... Resample the tracks to disk directly and then import them into a Logic project, and export to OMF ?

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:01 pm

sirCombatWombat wrote:I seem to remember that the audio tracks are already in separate .WAV files on the disk, in their respective folders under the song folder? Named something like ATRACK01, etc. Can't check right now.

Btw. Why would you need to give MIDI files to the studio?

Reg. Audio: Yes - that's where they are. But they start with the recording point and not with the beginning of the song. If you export from Logic you each file starts from the same start point which I believe to be quite handy for the one importing all audio tracks.

Reg. Midi: I dont have to give Midi-tracks to the studio. But I have to record them to audio and give this to the studio. In Logic this is just 2 clicks and you have all the tracks in the specified audio-format in one folder that you copy on a DVD and send to the studio.

It seems the "best" way will be to record each track into Logic ...

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:37 pm

Do you have an EXB-DI or enough inputs on your audio interface to use all the Oasys Individual Outputs ? You could kill 4-8 birds with one stone

Daz.

Swampfox · Post by **Swampfox** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:41 am

Question: Is there a way to export a song ( just midi ) on the oasys as a midi file? If so, I may have a idea for you Charlie...

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:35 am

I have no EXB-DI and use Apogee-Duett as audio-interface = 2 inputs. Midi-Files can be saved and transfered on other platforms. But I don't see how this should help.

Swampfox · Post by **Swampfox** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:40 am

I probably wasn't descriptive enough in that last question...

I know that you can save midi tracks, burn them to CD, and use the midi info as you wish...but I'm not aware of a process, on the Oasys, that would allow you to create one midi file that contains all 16 midi tracks of info in one file...thats what I was wondering. If so this is why it could save you a lot of time...

1. Make the midi file(s) of your song from the Oasys ready for export...burn them to CD...up to 16/song

2. Import them into Logic

3. Depending on how many midi tracks you imported thats how many Audio Tracks you'll want to create.

4. Now create your busses and assign your patches... Midi track 1 bus to Audio track 1--Midi track 2 bus to Audio track 2--Midi track 3 bus to Audio track 3...etc...as many tracks as you have up to 16 at one time.

5. Arm record on all of the audio tracks and hit record...You'll be able to convert up to 16 midi tracks into audio/wav in one realtime record pass! Talk about saving a lot of time!

I just tried this with 10 tracks at once...no prob. Obviously 16 will work exactly the same... The reason I asked my initial question about creating a full song midi file is because it would save you even more time

Now, I'm not sure how Logic is set up, but I would assum you have at least 16 internal busses available to you.

You could easily convert 16 midi tracks to audio/wav in less than 10 minutes. A lot lot faster than doing one pass per track...especially on a 4 or 5 minute song.

Hope this made sense...if more detail is needed, just let me know

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:51 pm

Ähem - I'm confused.

It's possible to record 16 Midi-Tracks to 16 different Audio-Tracks within the Oasys in one go? In that case I wouldn't have to go via Logic at all - that would be great!

In that case: what about stereo? Each Midi-Track is stereo but audio are Mono and you have to make this paired audio-tracks for stereo. In that case one can record 8 midi-tracks to 16 audio-tracks at once?

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:57 pm

Charlie,

I don't know what kind of mixer you have, but I normally track audio through my mixer (regardless of source) to my stand-alone HDR first, usually one track at a time. Then I can run all tracks back through my mixer tape returns for EQ, outboard FX etc and adjust each independently for volume with long throw faders.

This type of set up allows me to solo or mute tracks as I please and send the output to any recording device: CD, Dat, DVD, Cassette.

Since I have the gear and like to use it, I haven't bothered to try to use the "O" as a mixer, but I would think you should be able to solo/mute tracks on the O to output one at a time.

If you are going to deliver "X" number of individual tracks for mix & master, it will also be important to make sure they all have time code on them so they can put them back in proper timing.

The beauty of having your own stand-alone HDR, is that you can always take your stand-alone unit in to the mix/master house and they can copy the audio off each individual track. My unit allows me to just pop the hard drive out in its own removable sled and give that to the lab if they are so equipped.

Just a thought,

Ken