Tone Adjust in Seq Mode

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:01 am

I noticed an important difference how the Reset Controls button works in Tone Adjust Mode when playing in Program and Combination Mode, compared to Sequence Mode.

In Program and Combination Mode pressing the Reset Controls button, while turning knobs and sliders, will bring back the values in the original state.

In Sequence Mode this is not working the same way. When pressing the Reset Controls button, while turning knobs and sliders, all the values turn into zero.

It makes editing the Tone Adjust in SEQ Mode, especially using the EXi very difficult.

I am missing something, or is it a bug?

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:36 pm

You're missing something I believe

I ran than into this previously and was confused, but the online help revealed that Tone Adjust reset behaves differently in different modes.

The way that TONE ADJUST is reset depends on both
the current mode, and whether the parameter is
Relative or Absolute.

In Program mode, Absolute parameters will be reset to
the stored value, and Relative parameters will be reset
to the center (which means no deviation from the
stored value).

In Combination mode, they will be reset to the values
stored in the Combination.

In Sequencer mode, they will be reset to the state in
which they were immediately after you entered
Sequencer mode, selected the Song, executed Copy
From Combi, etc.

HTH,

Daz.

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:09 pm

Thanks Daz, it is working fine when I copie the combi into the sequencer.

But when I copie a Program in the SEQ or building the SEQ with different timbres, Tone Adjust reset to 00 using the Reset Control button.

So the only way is to build a combi first and then copie the combi in the SEQ?

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:43 pm

Good question

Maybe not. It says there that the TA settings will reset to the state in which they were when you "selected the Song". So maybe if you switch to another song, and then switch back to the song you're working on that will capture the reset state. Let me try that here, this might be something for the Tips and Tricks thread

Daz.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:58 pm

Er, I think that's working

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with that.

The Reset Controls + Tone Adjust button only resets the controls themselves and not some of the values that sit under the buttons for example, so it's only part of what I want it to do.

Daz.

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:39 pm

oeps the O freezes when switching between different songs and playing with the reset control in TA. I'll try again......

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:48 pm

Hi Daz, maybe I am missing it, but it's not working here.

This what I did:
I copied a STR-1 Prog in track1 of song 00. Copied a AL-1 prog in song 01. Changed the knobs values of both progs of the different songs. Switched back and forth.

Used the Reset Control button in both songs, result in both songs: all knob parameter values 00

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:13 pm

Strange things are happening switching back and fort between different songs with different EXi's in track 1 and using the Reset Control button + the Tone Adjust knob or different knobs, after changing the values of the knobs in the different songs.

Sometimes the O freezes (if I can reproduce it exactly I will share it) and sometimes all the values are put to 00, even if I haven't touched all the parameters ( try a MOD-7 prog). Just push the Reset Control button and Tone Adjust....all the osc are switched off.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:37 pm

Oh dear, I am sorry to have lead you down that path

I'll try to take a further look when I get a moment. I generally try to steer clear of TA, because of these kinds of oddities. My favourite is when you set a bunch of Tone Adjust params, and then open the Program dialog, audition a few programs and then Cancel out of the dialog. Your TA settings disappear. LOL, actually maybe that is the way for you reset your TAdj settings ? Open the Program browser for a track, select a different Program and then hit Cancel. Your TAdj settings are reset to something.

Daz.

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:02 am

Wasn't aware of this one! That's a good way to put all the different parameters of the Tone Adjust in it's original state. Thanks!

But I have't found a way to reset just one knob or slider....

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:12 pm

LOL, I am glad that bug is actually going to doing something useful for someone

I've run out of ideas on this one. I try to limit my TAdj usage because of these quirky behaviours, so my experience with it is somewhat limited.

Another quirk to be aware of is that when working with MOD-7 in Program mode, if you copy an oscillator the TAdj settings override the copied params, so copied oscillators settings don't get carried over as you might expect. So when creating MOD-7 sounds, I always disable all the TAdj stuff first.

Daz.

Arend Groot · Post by **Arend Groot** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:00 pm

Thanks for this other tip too....and your limited experience

LOL, Dan and Brandon are watching this topic for sure, so at least we can expect another bug fix update, and..........while they are working on that, they could fulfil some other wishes