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I'm trying to sample sounds from my 01/W to put them on my Triton Extreme. I have had absolutely no problem w/ the sampling aspect of this, and all the multisounds are coming out great. When i go to input values in Program mode to reflect the 01/W's programs... it gets very very confusing, specifically with filter and velocity-sensitivity... among many other things. For every value in the 01/W's program edit mode, there's like 5 in the Triton's Program Edit mode.The Parameter guide is almost as confusing as Program mode! does anyone have any in-depth program-editing tutorials they can direct me to or... anything like that?

does anyone have any in-depth program-editing tutorials they can direct me to or... anything like that?

There is no better thing than Parameter Guide. Take your time with it. Forget about 01/W reproduction at the moment, read Parameter Guide menu by menu and actually try altering those paremeters on Extreme. You'll figure out everything in a day, if you really take a whole day to learn program edit mode. You'll also see many parameters are cross-related, many of them influence each other. When you understand those relations, you'll have no trouble reproducing 01/W on Extreme; more so, you'll be able to shape multisample sampled from 01/W to sound even better than on 01/W. And of course, such in-depth knowledge will help you understand how some other sounds are shaped.

I have such manual, but on Croatian. I sort of simplified some things, pointed out some tricks and wrote down important relations (what can be achieved with proper parameters interactions). Parameter Guide can be somewhat confusing at the first reading. Also, if you program one time, then don't program at all for several months, some things just vanish away. So having your own references written down sure helps a lot.

Sorry for providing you an answer "read Parameter Guide", but really, there isn't anything else than can explain it better. Forget about video tutorials and similar stuff.

How many of the 01's programs are you sampling?

right now i'm just trying working on the piano sound... i figured it was a pretty simple place to start, but the 01/W's piano program is so different from the Triton's piano program... it's a challenge.

At first i thought i would start with one of the Triton's piano programs and load in the 01/W's multisound. This didn't work out so well... the Triton's evelope generator settings are dramatically different...it didn't even resemble the 01/W's at all.

When i sampled it, i loaded an initialized program so it would play an unaltered multisample and i could loop it easily.

Eventually... i'd like to reproduce about 10-20 of the 01/W's multisounds... i'm thinking ahead when this keyboard finally gives out on me ... i don't want to lose any of those great sounds (shame i can't take the waveshaping w/ me either). While the Triton Extreme's samples are higher quality, sometimes i just want that fat warmth of the 01/W in my sequences.

shrike wrote:

Sorry for providing you an answer "read Parameter Guide", but really, there isn't anything else than can explain it better. Forget about video tutorials and similar stuff.

Naah you're right there seems to be no other place to look. I guess i'll be experimenting w/ the Triton's Program Edit mode pretty soon. Thanks for the advice!

If you'd like, you can send me the multisample and I can give it a shot.

What effects are used on the 01's piano program?

You'll spend a ton of time getting the 01/W sounds. Why not just buy the Legacy Collection. It's got all those wonderful sounds and some new capabilities too, for a very reasonable price. I know the challenge of such a problem can be appealing, but if it's just the sounds you want, they're available for much less trouble. Just my opinion. Not judging at all.

it's more than just the effects settings... it's everything from the velocity sensitivity right down to the filter settings. I'd be happy to post the multisound if you like... i'll stick it up tomorrow if you want to give it a go tho, but i don't have my 01W here to post settings. 01/W's in the legacy collection? I thought it only included M1, Wavestation and a few other older synths... i'll have to check it out. But it's cool, i really want to understand program mode and be able to go beyond the limitations of the Triton's presets. Anywho... planning to tinker in Program mode all day tomorrow! i'm psyched

I was only asking for which effects were used in the 01's piano sound, not specific settings. I used to own an 01, so I was thinking I might be able to get close just going from memory. Knowing which effects were used would help, but it's probably not critical.

i finally have a whole day to learn program edit mode!

so i don't understand AMS... i do, but i don't... does 01/W have the same thing, just in a different form?

AMS is a parameter that allows additional modulation sources to be routed to the destination. For example, you can select the ribbon to control LFO speed, or the -Y joystick to control it instead.

The 01w (IIRC) has preset modulation sources and destinations. I don't think it allows you to select the mod source from a list like AMS allows.

so it's basically the same thing, only the 01/W you can't choose sources and destinations, they're chosen for you, correct?

what's IIRC?

Yes, I think that is how it was on the 01. All modulations were one one or two menu screens, and you could not change the sources or destinations. You could only adjust what was there.

IIRC is short for "if I recall correctly". I haven't had my 01 for about 3 years now, so I'm going by memory of how the edit screens were organized.

How's your programming day coming along? Is the piano sound taking shape?

Doing much better with it... things are making sense... but it seems the modifiers on both of the keyboards use different scalings... the Triton has a much bigger velocity range than the 01/W, and it seems to be like this in a lot of fields. Velocity sense of +61 on the 01/W means something totally different to a Triton. Right now it's down to just playing with these numbers and matching them up by ear. Just doing some tinkering now, but i have a piano sound that sounds exactly the same... it's just too velocity-sensitive!

Actually, you can see it for yourself http://www.easy-share.com/1904248626/PNO_01W.rar

Just load N100 - 01/Wfd Piano