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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:54 pm
by oasys76
danatkorg wrote:Cool! I'm looking forward to hearing even more sounds.
I'm still digging the Total Control set...

- Dan
Hi Dan

:idea: maybe Korg R&D open the code for Karo and Stephen Kay then all would be our dearest Oasys continue in lifelong :idea:

- oasys76

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:03 pm
by zolhof
medusaland wrote: Modifications to the OS (VST, streaming ...) can only be the R&D team from Korg, since the software has a source code and the Korg is definitely not for a Third Party Release! :wink:
hi Kurt, I´m curious about something.. if Korg decided to "open" the source code (don´t know the correct terms) and give you the proper tools, would Karo be able to develop a new sequencer, new synthesis engines, Efx, etc? Or Karo is focused in sound creation/programming "only"?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:30 pm
by zolhof
oasys76 wrote: :idea: maybe Korg R&D open the code for Karo and Stephen Kay then all would be our dearest Oasys continue in lifelong :idea:

- oasys76
+1 :)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:04 pm
by spalding12
This is a fantastic thread.... with wonderful news
i will look forward to subsequent information

congratulations on the new team members and..... GOOD LUCK !

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:13 pm
by medusaland
zolhof wrote:
medusaland wrote: Modifications to the OS (VST, streaming ...) can only be the R&D team from Korg, since the software has a source code and the Korg is definitely not for a Third Party Release! :wink:
hi Kurt, I´m curious about something.. if Korg decided to "open" the source code (don´t know the correct terms) and give you the proper tools, would Karo be able to develop a new sequencer, new synthesis engines, Efx, etc? Or Karo is focused in sound creation/programming "only"?
Hi Cesar,

there are now already a few nice ideas, let's see what the future brings :wink:

Best wishes,

Kurt
KARO Sound Development
EWBR & medusaland

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:34 pm
by oasys76
zolhof wrote:
medusaland wrote: Modifications to the OS (VST, streaming ...) can only be the R&D team from Korg, since the software has a source code and the Korg is definitely not for a Third Party Release! :wink:
Hi Cesar,

there are now already a few nice ideas, let's see what the future brings :wink:

Best wishes,

Kurt
KARO Sound Development
EWBR & medusaland
Best news at 2009

Korg hopefully speak with you on a common way to find

Dan, Jerry and co, please give us a chance

- oasys76

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:43 pm
by billysynth1
Hi Kurt, this is gooood news.

Sorry to be negative for a second, but i seem to recall that Karo and Korg, on a previous occassion, tried to collaborate some joint venture ( regarding Karo Sample Libraries ) but nothing materialised for whatever reason/s :?: My appolgies if i am wrong on this.
Hi Cesar,

there are now already a few nice ideas, let's see what the future brings
Does this mean Karo is talking with Korg Inc??

Also,
Will you be providing interviews and photo's of the new Dr's and thier work??

Billy

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:22 am
by zolhof
I can only hope and even BEG Korg to realize how this can be a huge step into the right path..... Karo has the competence and most importantly the WILL to develop new goodies for the Oasys

please Korg, keep the door open :wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:17 am
by Synergy
medusaland wrote:there are now already a few nice ideas, let's see what the future brings :wink:
I'd like to see a whole new set of third party drivers for the current ATX motherboards with solid capacitors replacing old ones that are prone to leak.
As you know, the new Intel X58 chipset could not only accomodate over 12GB of DDR3 RAM but a newer generation Quad Core CPU, and SATA hard disks that are faster and far more cheaper and easier to find than the ones inside the Oasys. That'll certainly raise the value and the demand for Oasys not to mention profit for the developer.

Oh Please, Its been said all before

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:28 am
by robkeith
Hi all,

After the official news from Korg of the retirement of the Oasys, which was after months of detailed questioning of Korg, and denials, re the whispers from big O owners, why would Korg open up the coding, they just want this whole thing to go away, quietly.

Its great that Karo are further developing sounds for the big O, still currently the best synth out there, I say Synth because the other features are way below par, compared to cheaper units on the market out there, but lets get honest and understand that, expecting Korg to release the coding to anyone, is a major fantasy.

Korg want us all to buy further products from them, hence the "something in the pipeline" to keep us from going to other developers for a synth that delivers a basic pc/synth sequencer, thats fast and efficient. Even thier own M3, and the new release does this.

After all the requests from owners for the number one priority "sequencer updates", why do you think we haven't to date got one, answer Korg dont want us to have it! why?, I guess only the powers at Korg can tell us, and dont say because of cost, that is a joke. Maybe I should have been talking cost when I bought the Big "O". I am sick of waiting asking, and pleading for decent sequencer upgrades, its time to move on.

As I said currently the "O" best synth, but VST's are fast tracking towards outdateing the "O", Open Labs a perfect discussion point, even Karma, has 6 GE cats, instead of 4 for the big O, and Steven will never say its becoming outdated, its not in his best interests to do so. And Korg can carry on with all of the discussions about it was never the be all, and end all, because we know different, thats not what the sales blurbs said or implied.

Its a catch 22, i'm surprised that the Owners havent organised a class action against Korg by now, there is plenty of evidence to suggest we were led up the perverbial, for me, I just beleive this has been a sorry and very expensive exercise that I will never make again, so thanks Korg for stopping me from ever spending so much money on another under developed piece of equipement.

I mean thanks in a good way, because none of us will ever spend this much again, I'm sure Roland and Yamaha and other developers shelved expensive releases that would have offered fantastic developments because of Korg, and the outcome will be poor outcomes for anything not VST enabled, hence why the move away to those products.

Serious lessons to be learnt by all, Jerry and Dan I believe you would have pleaded the case to the Governing bodies in Japan, so i'm not upset with you, and I have appreciated your help, however the Board need to re think the Big "O" strategy, which I dont think will happen, but I allways live in hope. When my Open Labs arrives shortly, I will be happy to tell you all about it.

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:35 am
by peter m. mahr
G R E A T N E W S !!! :D

looking forward

peter

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:24 am
by Arend Groot
Great news keeping the O alive 8)

Re: Oh Please, Its been said all before

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:35 pm
by AnthonyB
robkeith wrote:Hi all,

When my Open Labs arrives shortly, I will be happy to tell you all about it.
Hello, Just off topic for a moment 8)

Was wondering - since you are in Ausrailia - were you get the Neko/open labs from?, mail order? local shop?. Can't see these open labs listed yet in UK shops, alongside the rolands/yamaha's/korgs/kurzweils /moogs etc,

So was wondering how "available" these are. There seem to be quite a few models as well (EX5/LXD/LX5/XXL/Neko lux etc. Are there an major differences between these models?. Do they come with "normal-sounds" (strings/Brass/Synth/pad etc - VST apart (maybe i'll go figure a bit more i think!) when i here the words "OPEN LABS" 3 words always cross my mind, though: Work-in=progress" ..........

On topic 8) , congrats Karo, hope you get dug in now, and do what you do best - and indeed, all the best.

Tony

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:26 pm
by Sharp
Hi AnthonyB.
when i here the words "OPEN LABS" 3 words always cross my mind, though: Work-in=progress"
I thought that too until I played one. Check out this video tutorial on their interface called “RiFF”. It's worth sticking it out and watching the entire video as it gives you a good idea of how easy it is to operate the Neko, and how even in live use it will operated like a standard workstation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwdKG0lPwXE

Regards.
Sharp.

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:34 pm
by spalding12
take a look at THIS site
www.openlabs.com

and THIS forum.....
get involved
the NeKo XXL is one sweet-looking board... shipping any day

http://forum.openlabs.com/index.php?act=idx

i love Korg
i have 3 of their boards in my home now
but...
Open Labs is creating TRUE OPEN ARCHITECTURE workstations
of course i'm worried that the economy is going to kill them as well
and their deal with stephen kay is not yet finalized (i think )
but.....
open Labs AND Karma... under 1 "roof"
the sky is the limit with THAT combo..... UNdoubtedly

again....
I STILL LOVE KORG