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Hi all

just a daft question. Still working with the oasys 88. love it to bits but have had to use logic as a sampler for automatic loading of sound design projects etc and my old library from college.

is there a way if loading wavestation programs or combis to the oasys or converting them? I miss my old M1, O1W and wavestation. they were my old synthesizers family bought me to help me to achieve my musical talents.

can anyone help at all please?

Nope, not right now anyway.

Regards
Sharp

no , one of korgs typical deliberate mistakes , they loaded in the wavestation - yes added features and all the original wavesequences but for some unknown and i think retarded reason they didnt implement import of wavestation sysex ( even though the legacy software does ?) you have to wonder somedays.

lewisjalexander wrote:Hi all

just a daft question. Still working with the oasys 88. love it to bits but have had to use logic as a sampler for automatic loading of sound design projects etc and my old library from college.

is there a way if loading wavestation programs or combis to the oasys or converting them? I miss my old M1, O1W and wavestation. they were my old synthesizers family bought me to help me to achieve my musical talents.

can anyone help at all please?

ix studio wrote:no , one of korgs typical deliberate mistakes , they loaded in the wavestation - yes added features and all the original wavesequences but for some unknown and i think retarded reason they didnt implement import of wavestation sysex ( even though the legacy software does ?) you have to wonder somedays.

.. for that statement I had to log in.

agreed!

One has to wonder, sometimes, whether people who post rude things on the internet would be more polite when speaking face-to-face in the same room...

To be fair to Korg they have more or less answered this many times here while addressing why Triton programs can't be loaded in; the reason being that the OASYS voice structure is significantly different to all previous synths so conversion is not really possible and would have required dedicated converters for each previous synth type - hardly justifiable for an OASYS market of 2000-3000 users.

By contrast, the Legacy edition is a software implementation of previous synths so the voice structure is the same by definition. Hence, the Korg team developing the Legacy edition actually spent their time making it similar to the previous hardware implementations, while the OASYS team did not. Hence while many of the wavestation features are under the hood of OASYS, its voice structure is not.

Before you argue that they should have put the extra effort in - I suggest that OASYS as a whole package is truly phenomenal - just step back from it and take a look at what you have available - it still amazes me given the small number ever made - so had they put resources into converters for all previous implementations, many existing (and stunning) features on OASYS would not have survived.

Rather, why not look on the wavestation features as an added bonus. After all, its implementation of vector synthesis and wave-sequencing (coupled to Karma) make the wavestation pale by comparison.

Kevin.

danatkorg wrote:One has to wonder, sometimes, whether people who post rude things on the internet would be more polite when speaking face-to-face in the same room...

agreed

ix studio - recommend you read over the 'legacy' of discussions on this forum, including the incredibly forthright and helpful contributions from many from Korg including Dan, Jerry, Stephen from Karma-Lab and Korg support from numerous countries.

Your accusations are completely ill founded - in fact Korg have shown themselves to be the opposite to what you claim - for a relatively modest sized company they turn out astounding musical technology and are incredibly passionate about what they do. There will always be myriads of things they can't do, and that’s true of all companies.

Kevin.

Kevin Nolan wrote:To be fair to Korg they have more or less answered this many times here while addressing why Triton programs can't be loaded in; the reason being that the OASYS voice structure is significantly different to all previous synths so conversion is not really possible and would have required dedicated converters for each previous synth type - hardly justifiable for an OASYS market of 2000-3000 users.

... und dennoch, verdammt schade. gerade im falle der wavestation sounds.

Dan, what do you think the chances are of KORG allowing us to sample whatever we liked from within the KORG product family with the promise that the destination format will remain a KORG format ?

For example, sampling Digital Legacy or COMBI sounds from the M3 and uploading them in OASYS format or whatever other KORG format we want.

Kind Regards
James

Sharp wrote:Dan, what do you think the chances are of KORG allowing us to sample whatever we liked from within the KORG product family with the promise that the destination format will remain a KORG format ?

For example, sampling Digital Legacy or COMBI sounds from the M3 and uploading them in OASYS format or whatever other KORG format we want.

Kind Regards
James

My unofficial and completely un-bankable response: there are various products on the market which do similar things, and I have not seen any actions made against them.

Best,

Dan

I have asked this question before because I still have & play my original wavestation and treasure it's programs. Dan has been kind enough to take the time to answer it yet again.

It's quite easy to want to get answers quickly but it really behooves all to at least do a search or 2 before asking the community. The collective sigh when people don't search before they ask is deafening.

Regarding ix's post here, it is completely out of line in any forum of any kind when the manufacturer (who has no ownership of this site) has people willing to share their vast knowledge with our community. Respect is a common courtesy that should be extended to all when addressing issues here.

Kevin, I agree with you completely, well said.

Sharp, I suggest you add ix's name to your tally book in the sky just in case he continues his rude behavior.

Ken

BACKWARD COMPATIBLE then.....sorry if by stating the odvious i caused any offence , i do feel korg have filedterribly ( as have karma labs) in not making it possible for people who spend years programming use their patches and data in newer versions ( which are no doubt code extensions of older code) .Its tedious from my point of view , i have to keep my old synths or lose tons of programs and data i created.Its tedious.I can respect any excuses but they remain excuses . consider the user for once and all his work .....who would not want 1005 backward compatability ? who ? a non programmer.......! who uses presets.Hey presto.

I guess it was not what you posted what offended it was the way you posted ... but I could be wrong. Anyway, I would have appreciated it to see the Wavestation sounds made available for OASYS as importing Yamaha DX sounds in the case of MOD-7 was possible. But I am no programmer thus do not know the background and efforts (man power) necessary. To me as a customer it is just a missed opportunity to make OASYS even more interesting.

peter