Hi,
I was wondering if it was possible to have the equivalent of Karma scenes for combinations. I mean that, with Karma, it's possible to select, by means of a scene, which Karma modules and parameter values you want to be active. What I'm looking for is the possibility to activate, by a single key press, a subset of the timbres that makes up a combination (of course, this can always be done via the main screen, by deselecting the timbres you do not want, but this is clumsy and not practicable during play). This means that the same combination would be made to sound (possibly very) differently depending on the "scene" (i.e., specific subset of timbres) you select.
I've looked in the Operations Guide and the Parameter guide but could not find this feature. Does it exist natively?
Or otherwise, is it possible to have this by resorting to some trick, like sending midi data from an external device?
Thanks for your help.
Denis
Combination "scenes"?
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Thanks for the procedure
Thanks SoulBe,
I've had a look at the thread and have found the description by Tooke and yourself. I will try the procedure to see if it allows to do what I'm looking for.
At least it suggests that the feature is not native in the Oasys. It would be nice to have this in a more direct way, that is the possibility to variate easily how a combination sounds by activating different subsets of its underlying compononents (i.e., timbres/programs) in a straightforward way.
I'll post something here when I'm done with my attempts. Thanks again.
Denis
I've had a look at the thread and have found the description by Tooke and yourself. I will try the procedure to see if it allows to do what I'm looking for.
At least it suggests that the feature is not native in the Oasys. It would be nice to have this in a more direct way, that is the possibility to variate easily how a combination sounds by activating different subsets of its underlying compononents (i.e., timbres/programs) in a straightforward way.
I'll post something here when I'm done with my attempts. Thanks again.
Denis
Hi Denis,
you´re right, it´s a kind of "misusing" karma, but when playing live I found it easy to switch between the scenes.
Another possibitlity is of course to step forward from one combie to another with a foot controller like some do.
I also remeber, that some time ago I started a thread, if one can turn on/off timbres with the switches near to the joystick like I was used to with my Kurzweil K 26; someone answered and gave a link to the Karma Lab forum, the solution was something with the effect busses as far as I remeber, but I found Karma was easier. You might find out with the search by author function.
Regards SoulBe
PS: If you find out another possibility let me know
you´re right, it´s a kind of "misusing" karma, but when playing live I found it easy to switch between the scenes.
Another possibitlity is of course to step forward from one combie to another with a foot controller like some do.
I also remeber, that some time ago I started a thread, if one can turn on/off timbres with the switches near to the joystick like I was used to with my Kurzweil K 26; someone answered and gave a link to the Karma Lab forum, the solution was something with the effect busses as far as I remeber, but I found Karma was easier. You might find out with the search by author function.
Regards SoulBe
PS: If you find out another possibility let me know
Very good, SoulBe. Thanks a lot again for the additional ideas.
I'll also try to look for this in past threads on the Karma Lab forum.
Indeed, I suspected that it was possible to achieve this with Karma, but had no idea how. Karma is probably more powerful (and useful) than most of us believe.
Changing combis with a footswitch is of course what I want to avoid (and moreover, I presume that a combi will stop making sounds when it is switched to the next one, which is of course a major problem).
OK, I'll try all the solutions you have mentioned and will describe here what I have found.
Denis
I'll also try to look for this in past threads on the Karma Lab forum.
Indeed, I suspected that it was possible to achieve this with Karma, but had no idea how. Karma is probably more powerful (and useful) than most of us believe.
Changing combis with a footswitch is of course what I want to avoid (and moreover, I presume that a combi will stop making sounds when it is switched to the next one, which is of course a major problem).
OK, I'll try all the solutions you have mentioned and will describe here what I have found.
Denis
Ruddess is using this conventional method a lot: step from one combi to the next. Sort of waste of combi-space. But as there's plenty of space for combis it makes sense. However, I agree on the "switching" sound.
Cool idea to use Karma scenes for this task. Never thought about it that way. It's not the same IMHO, but it offers other goodies.
Cool idea to use Karma scenes for this task. Never thought about it that way. It's not the same IMHO, but it offers other goodies.
And I forgot ...
what I do in a live situation, I use a masterkeyboard in addition to the Oasys so I can work with different midichannels on different keyzones and switch the channels on the masterkeyboard, what gives you togehter with the "karma-soultion" for the sounds you play on the O keyboard most flexibility.
SoulBe
what I do in a live situation, I use a masterkeyboard in addition to the Oasys so I can work with different midichannels on different keyzones and switch the channels on the masterkeyboard, what gives you togehter with the "karma-soultion" for the sounds you play on the O keyboard most flexibility.
SoulBe
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I don't have my Oasys near to give examples, but you can find several examples in the combis where you can change the sound of the combi with the controllers. I remember one that is Orchestral + Oboe or Flute and one of the switch buttons (SW1 or SW2) change the Oboe/Flute to Strings.
You not only can mute/unmute timbres but also change completely the balance of different timbres in all their way with the vector controller for example.
You not only can mute/unmute timbres but also change completely the balance of different timbres in all their way with the vector controller for example.
Leo
OASYS 88 #000312
KRONOS 61 #003946
KORG Z1, ROLAND PK-5
OASYS 88 #000312
KRONOS 61 #003946
KORG Z1, ROLAND PK-5
Yes, Idascanio is right.
I also programmed some combies with blending over the volume of the timbres with the vector stick but it´s sometimes tricky, because you have to make sure not to affect the ohter parameters. So I came back to the karma solution and when you switch the scenes the sounds aren´t interrupted - they fade out.
SoulBe
I also programmed some combies with blending over the volume of the timbres with the vector stick but it´s sometimes tricky, because you have to make sure not to affect the ohter parameters. So I came back to the karma solution and when you switch the scenes the sounds aren´t interrupted - they fade out.
SoulBe