would be fine to have in a next Op.Sys upgrade the possibility to use the midi thru as a secon OUT
normally I use the OUT connected to the IN of Korg D3200, now I've got a new TC Helicon Harmonizer-M and I have to use again the OUT of m3, but I can't!
I hope that korg will keep this in consideration for next update
Regards
Aldo
MIDI THRU configurable as 2nd MIDI OUT
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kanthos
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It's probably very rare for any MIDI hardware to do this. The proper ways to do this are to either use the MIDI THRU of another device or to get an external THRU box or MIDI patch bay, depending on how complex your setup is.
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Rob Sherratt
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One "free" way of achieving this plus a lot more MIDI flexibility besides is to connect all MIDI devices to a PC and then run MIDIOX as a patchbay. It works really well. You can even route split note ranges to different instruments and MIDi channels. It also perfoms channel remapping, MIDI merge, multiple device control, filtering, monitoring, MIDI debugging, MIDI data capture, SysEX capture and debugging etc.
For example I have M3, Pa2x and PadKontrol all connected via MIDI over USB to my laptop which is running MIDIOX. I assigned the PadKontrol so half the pads are routed to the Pa2x in Global mode to do style control function. The other half of the pads are routed to the M3 to play percussion. The M3-88 keybed on Ch1 is routed to the Pa2x in Omni mode where the lower 5 octaves can do everything on the Pa2x that the native 76 note keyboard does. The upper 28 notes are assigned on the M3 to play solo synth sounds from the EXB-RADIAS. The Pa2x keybed is assigned via MIDI channel 6, via MIDIOX and back to the Pa2x where it plays DNC flute solos on channel 6 using the upper 3 octaves, and it plays DNC nylon guitar solos on channel 7 using the lower 3 octaves.
And yes my setup took a lot of "debugging", but the MIDIOX real-time MIDI message monitor screen allowed me to solve the configuration problems in minutes whereas any previous methods requuired guesswork because I was working in the dark.
It's mind boogling all the stuff you can do using MIDIOX. There is no other MIDI patchbay or MIDI router on the market that can touch it. And it's free, you can download it here:
http://www.midiox.com/
Best regards,
Rob
For example I have M3, Pa2x and PadKontrol all connected via MIDI over USB to my laptop which is running MIDIOX. I assigned the PadKontrol so half the pads are routed to the Pa2x in Global mode to do style control function. The other half of the pads are routed to the M3 to play percussion. The M3-88 keybed on Ch1 is routed to the Pa2x in Omni mode where the lower 5 octaves can do everything on the Pa2x that the native 76 note keyboard does. The upper 28 notes are assigned on the M3 to play solo synth sounds from the EXB-RADIAS. The Pa2x keybed is assigned via MIDI channel 6, via MIDIOX and back to the Pa2x where it plays DNC flute solos on channel 6 using the upper 3 octaves, and it plays DNC nylon guitar solos on channel 7 using the lower 3 octaves.
And yes my setup took a lot of "debugging", but the MIDIOX real-time MIDI message monitor screen allowed me to solve the configuration problems in minutes whereas any previous methods requuired guesswork because I was working in the dark.
It's mind boogling all the stuff you can do using MIDIOX. There is no other MIDI patchbay or MIDI router on the market that can touch it. And it's free, you can download it here:
http://www.midiox.com/
Best regards,
Rob
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kanthos
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MIDI Ox is great if you play with a computer. The only downside is that unless you've got a backup plan, you're dependent on your computer not crashing.
After the rehearsal for a gig last month, the first where I'd tried to use my laptop in conjunction with both my keyboards, I made some changes to break any dependencies my keyboards had on the laptop. Through some MIDI Solutions products, my keyboards now talk directly to each other as well as to the laptop, and the laptop doesn't send any MIDI data back out. I also dumped Native Instruments' Kore in favor of Brainspawn Forte, since Forte seems to be more stable, while Kore had some bugs and irrevocably corrupted one of my save files 30 minutes before the gig.
I also run with two copies of all my songs (I play in sequencer mode on my TR) - one that only uses sounds from the keyboards and another that uses sounds from my laptop. If anything happens to the laptop, I can switch songs on the TR's sequencer and keep going without having to unplug anything.
After the rehearsal for a gig last month, the first where I'd tried to use my laptop in conjunction with both my keyboards, I made some changes to break any dependencies my keyboards had on the laptop. Through some MIDI Solutions products, my keyboards now talk directly to each other as well as to the laptop, and the laptop doesn't send any MIDI data back out. I also dumped Native Instruments' Kore in favor of Brainspawn Forte, since Forte seems to be more stable, while Kore had some bugs and irrevocably corrupted one of my save files 30 minutes before the gig.
I also run with two copies of all my songs (I play in sequencer mode on my TR) - one that only uses sounds from the keyboards and another that uses sounds from my laptop. If anything happens to the laptop, I can switch songs on the TR's sequencer and keep going without having to unplug anything.
Keyboard Rig: Korg Kronos, Moog Sub 37, Waldorf Blofeld Module, Neo Instruments Ventilator II, Moog MiniFooger Delay, Strymon BigSky, Roland KC-150, Mackie 802-VLZ4 Mixer
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Hi Kanthos,
I like the idea of your redundant setup. But I know the probability of supply failures in Corfu to be far greater than probability of failure on my laptop with MIDIOX. I use a UPS to lessen some of the risks of supply failure but with the PA running, I still only get 20 minutes or so before the UPS bleeps and shuts down. At least I have some protection. In the past during one "gig" in a hotel I was using no UPS. The mains glitched for only 2 seconds (a brown out coupled with an overvoltage surge), and the powered speakers blew up (smoke coming from them) and my keyboard was toast.
Best regards,
Rob
I like the idea of your redundant setup. But I know the probability of supply failures in Corfu to be far greater than probability of failure on my laptop with MIDIOX. I use a UPS to lessen some of the risks of supply failure but with the PA running, I still only get 20 minutes or so before the UPS bleeps and shuts down. At least I have some protection. In the past during one "gig" in a hotel I was using no UPS. The mains glitched for only 2 seconds (a brown out coupled with an overvoltage surge), and the powered speakers blew up (smoke coming from them) and my keyboard was toast.
Best regards,
Rob