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Hello, my first post here, altough I own Korg Pa 60 several years.
I hope that I will receive some good advice. Here in my question:

What has to be done to exacty record style performance from Korg to Cubase sequencer ( or any similar ).
Whenever I try to do this, there are problems with recorder sounds ( sounds are not the same as played from Korg ) ; instead of percussions there are some pianos etc etc.,

Any clues what should I do to get exactly the same performance , recorder into Cubase, than it is heard when I play Korg styles ???

Best regards !

Josip 2

josip,

you asked me on the reaper's forum about my korg. it is a pa50.

on cubase you can do this even easier, as there is a instrument definition in cubase for korg pa50/60/80.

just to make sure you do not panic , any midi sequencer will let you record multiple midi tracks at once, but of course some would make your life easier than others. if you get it right with reaper good, if cubase, good. these programs have also the advantage of doing audio very well, so, you can easily get to the real deal with audio tracks.

goodluck!

It is a lengthly and complicated topic to explain repeatedly, however I'll point you in the right direction.

for example, read my post in these threads:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... idi++audio

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... midi+audio

you asked me on the reaper's forum about my korg. it is a pa50.

on cubase you can do this even easier, as there is a instrument definition in cubase for korg pa50/60/80.

Hello.
I manage some how to prepare Korg and reaper to comuncate together. I have spent a great del of time ( my fault ) to record one midi song , which I have played thru Korg arrangements.

Now there is another issue. When recording midi ,Korg does not send any CC and PC control data into reaper, only notes !!!!
Today I have messed up with global settings of Korg and f***ed up everything (I think ).

I would need an explanation, how to manage and organize Global midi settings ( Midi in, Midi out filter etc ) to fix this comunication misundertanding between this two units.

Please, help, I,m loosing my nerves on programing instead on learning to play.

let me continue :

Global settings Korg Pa-60 :
Page 1- nothing important everything default
P2- Midi in ON
P3 - nothing important
P4- nothing important
P5- nothing important
P6- Midi control page
Local - On
Clock - Internal
Clock send - Midi
P7 Midi in channels Explanation needed, please
My arrangements of this page ;
Ch1 to ch 8 S1 TR 1
Ch 9 bass ; Ch 10 Drums ; Ch 11 perc and so on acc1 to acc4
P 8 - default
P 9 default
P 10 Midi IN filter Tricky one, I think here is my answear ???
Sys. Excl is visible , all other options are off
P 11 : Midi out channel :
Channel 2 -8 of
ch 9 bass, 10 drums , 11 perc etc etc
P 12 ; Midi OUT Filter Tricky ???? Maybe here ?
Visible option Sys. Excl , all other Off

Hm, any hints where did I go wrong ?

Edit : I, m currently using REAPER software, not Cubase

Did you not read my post at all?

You are recording MIDI which is a control protocol - it is used to control another synthesizer, or record direct performance data. So even if it does sound 'kind of right', you are not hearing the KORG sounds and many of them will not have the same expression characteristics - you are probably hearing the Microsoft Wavetable Synth sounds.

MIDI only transmits the actual numerical data of which notes are played, how hard they are hit (or virtually hit), which controlers are moved, etc.

If you want to capture the performance exactly as you hear it from the KORG, the only solution is to record the Audio out from the main analog outputs.


or maybe I don't understand exactly what you are trying to achieve?

josip,

the only way to hear korg's sounds when playback the midi sequence recorded in reaper (from korg's midi out into your audiocard midi in) is to have the MIDI OUT channels set right (as i explained to you in the other forum) and of course, a midi cable going back to korg's midi in.

i hope i make sense.

then, if you want to record what you hear - the sequence played back with korg's sounds - you need an audio stereo cable from the korg's output to the audiocard's input.

lets say you did all of these. if you still can not hear sounds, or cannot record or whatever, make sure you take each step again and check for it to work. trying to connect two or more pieces of hardware and/or software thru MIDI is not always the easiest thing. trial and error is the way to go very often, and you just need to take time to understand how everything works. don't get impacient. eventually you'll get it done.

as for MIDI settings in korg, don't worry to much. read the manual. the important thing is to find what type of control (sequencer 1, sequencer 2, external, master, default, etc) will work properly for your purpose, and then how do you want to manage the midi events coming back to your keyboard, meaning the sounds/programs, the effects, the mix and so on.

I understand that midi are only data messages.

Please, explain is it possible to transmit control messages ( PC, CC, volume etc ) from Korg to Reaper or not.
And If so, how ??????

See atached file ! Korg does not sent those CC messages into Reaper

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/55/c ... omkorg.jpg

http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/976 ... isetup.jpg"
Screen above : I think this are factory defaults preprogramed MIDI options , I use Master KBD option



http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/976 ... creen1.jpg"
Screen above : on which midi channels korg transmits data

http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/976 ... filter.jpg"
Screen above : what does this mean ? I assume that only Sys. excl. data are NOT transmitted, all other data are. The same goes to MIDI IN filter.

Please, some advice.

I think, Your problem is, keyboard sends all paramerers (CC, PC..) when you select style. When you turn START, keyboard sends only Notes and other realtime controlers (pitch bend , CC - filters etc).
When you want to record init controlers,and program changes, you need to start RECORD on CUBASE and after select style.

ginol

Thank, I will try this method ASAP ( tonight ) and hope, this will work !!

ginol96

Hey man, thanks a lot for this suggestion, it works as you told me.

Thank you again !!![/b]