been trying to program this for hours.

[ANABLACK]

been trying to make a patch but can't figure it out. its an 80s prince-like sound. this song shows exactly what i want about 3 seconds in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyrDEVcNyNQ

if anyone can help me with this it would be much appreciated!

[xmlguy]

What have you tried, specifically, in detail?

[tpantano]

been trying to make a patch but can't figure it out. its an 80s prince-like sound. this song shows exactly what i want about 3 seconds in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyrDEVcNyNQ

if anyone can help me with this it would be much appreciated!

Ah, a synth classic.
This might actually be one of the defaults in the R3 vintage section, not sure since I overwrote most of them. If it is, I'll convert it to the MK for you, if not, I'll see if I can make it.

[ANABLACK]

i haven't been programming for a very long time on my mircokorg. but i have watched tutorials on similar patches and tried to escalate from there. and i just got overwhelmed and was hoping to get some help from programmers who know what they are doing. thatnks for your help!

[xmlguy]

You say you did some unknown things and then gave up. That's not very promising. Try something else and don't give up this time. Then come back and say what you tried, why you tried it, and what you think might be missing from what you hear. When you can answer those questions without giving up, then you'll be on your way to the first step of learning. It will also give us some hints about what you need to learn to do the patch better.

[ANABLACK]

i understand of course. i play piano and this is my first synth. i am trying to learn to program. i just needed this sound for a new wave project i am in. while doing what i can to learn programming, i am needing this sound sooner rather than later. thanks for your help

[xmlguy]

The sooner you learn, the sooner you'll have the sound. If you don't make the effort to learn, you may never get that sound. The synth isn't going to program itself.

[ANABLACK]

like i stated before. i am doing what i can to learn. i am new at this. i was just wondering if someone could help me with a patch. you don't need to keep telling me i need to learn. i know. but i am starting fresh right now. and i didn't know where to start for this patch. so if you don't want to help me, don't.

[xmlguy]

You start with a wave.

[tpantano]

You start with a wave.

Some more useful advice would've been, you start with a saw wave.

Look, making people learn themselves is definitely helpful, but giving them no advice whatsoever except for stating the obvious isn't.

[xmlguy]

You start with a wave.

Some more useful advice would've been, you start with a saw wave.

Look, making people learn themselves is definitely helpful, but giving them no advice whatsoever except for stating the obvious isn't.

If he actually stated _something_ that he tried, I would have given a lot more help in reply to what he said. I asked twice for some specifics about what he tried. He didn't respond with a single detail, so I gave more than I think he deserved. If you want to help more, be my guest. I require that something was really tried, while he has given absolutely no evidence to back up his claim. That's my price. If he doesn't want to say what he's tried that fine, I won't help. Feel free to write his patch for him, if that's what you're willing to do. I'm not.

You, of all people, should know that I'm more than willing to help. You demonstrated that you were trying things, so that's why I helped you. If you refused to say what you were trying, I wouldn't have helped you one bit either.

[tpantano]

yea,I get your point. but I remember when I first got my synth I didnt actually try anything, as I had no clue what to try. I wasn't til I was given a wave to start with that I actually got into trying various functions.

[xmlguy]

The nature of writing programs requires some initiative, a lot of self-guidance and experimentation. If you expect someone to show you how to do it, then you need someone who's actually sitting there with you, which this kind of text based internet forum isn't suited to do. I wasn't asking for details to make it difficult for him to get an answer, it was to get useful information to find out where he was in the process and what kind of problems he was having. That allows me to give him _useful_ advice that is directed to the actual stage he is in, rather than taking a dozen stabs in the dark just to find out. There really is a method to my madness. For example, if he said that he tried a saw, square, and sine wave, but wasn't sure which one to use, that tells me a lot more than "I tried something and gave up." Advice is a two-way street.

Imagine getting a telephone call from someone that goes like this:

Caller: "I'm having trouble getting to someplace that looks like a square building - please help me."
Me: "Where are you located and where are you going?"
Caller: "I tried some street and then I gave up."
Me: "Please describe, specifically, in detail, where you are as best you can."
Caller: "If you're not going to help me, then don't. Please hang up."
Me: "You called me. Click. Buzz."

[tpantano]

ANABLACK, if you're having trouble with the very basics, there's this:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/ ... thesizers/

for that sound, you're going to need to use a saw wave.

reference the MK manual for specific controls

[XdikkX]

ANABLACK, if you're having trouble with the very basics, there's this:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/ ... thesizers/

for that sound, you're going to need to use a saw wave.

reference the MK manual for specific controls

First post FTW!

Anyway, had nothing to do with this convo, but awesome vid. Thanks from another beginner..