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Nothing at Summer NAMM ???
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:15 am
by TSUNAMI
Seems like there has been nothing released by the big 3 and to be honest not much else released by anybody else ....
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:43 pm
by Synthoid
That's normal. Summer NAMM is rarely an exciting event...
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:21 pm
by TSUNAMI
True but they do normally release something though .... even if its an expansion board or tuner ...
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:42 pm
by Sharp
It's safe to say that the Recession is pretty much to blame for the lack of new music technology. The only good thing in all this though is that we should see more of a leap forward in technology when the time is right and the latest products are released.
Everyone has had more time to put that extra effort in, and I expect to see it. Anyone thinking they will get away with an incremental upgrade will be sorely disappointed as people will not be so willing to part with their cash.
Regards
Sharp.
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:51 pm
by Sharp
Some Lionstracs News.
The new X-7 Extreme 3 keyboard was released.
6 Cores, USB 3, 8GB DDR3 RAM, SATA3. 1TB HDD.
4,390 Euro
http://www.lionstracs.com/store/groove- ... p-254.html
And OS 4.3 was released.
http://www.lionstracs.com/store/lionstr ... p-256.html
Dual Video Players & Karaoke added. Support for loading multiple libraries of GIGA files, and more.....
190 Euro for just the OS if you don't own one of their keyboards. Free if you do.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:57 pm
by tarek
so guys if korg didnt release anything on namm ..when its excpected to release new stuff?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:44 pm
by Timo
Winter NAMM (mid-late January) is usually the big one for big announcements.
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:35 am
by tarek
hope that korg release new good stuff at winter namm...not just os upgrade or some lousy keyboards like the ps or m5o
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:58 pm
by mocando
tarek wrote:lousy keyboards like the ps or m5o
Do you own a PS60 or an M50 ? Or you simply assume they are lousy ? What are you expecting on a keyboard that any of the existing ones don't provide ?
Please enlighten us. Calling an M50 a lousy keyboard are big words. Is second from the top of the line of Korg workstations, so you must be really a connoisseur.
BTW I'm not counting the O, since is out of production.
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:40 pm
by tarek
mocando wrote:tarek wrote:lousy keyboards like the ps or m5o
Do you own a PS60 or an M50 ? Or you simply assume they are lousy ? What are you expecting on a keyboard that any of the existing ones don't provide ?
Please enlighten us. Calling an M50 a lousy keyboard are big words. Is second from the top of the line of Korg workstations, so you must be really a connoisseur.
well mr mocando ..i will face with (some few) facts ... !!1st we all now that all korg keyboards used to be made in japen .!!! which means 1st class keyboards ,now we see keyboards like pa50,x50,pa500,pa800 all made in china ..which is class 2o r even less !! looking back also from trinity till triton all keyboards used to come with semi weight keys or even if it semi weight it used to feel good ..now try to play on the x5o or pa50 yes these chinese keyboards are lousy and so lousy not to mention that they have so much bugs and belive they unlike the m1 who can live for ever these keyboards always have failures and their avarge life is 5 2 six yrs max..i know that m50 is lousy since i've tried it its cheap plastics ,its cheap keys,its sounds that are not for music production make me says all of this and if ps 6o comes from the same production line of m50 yes its lousy and iam saying all of this not bcz i wanna make fun on the countrary bcz i feel so sorry that korg come to this cheap commercial level of keyboards production so really i hope and many korg fans also do that we will witness laucnh of new keyboards that combine the good quality and new technology in the future gear..
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:47 pm
by X-Trade
I have to admit I absolutely hated the keys of the M50 when I tried it, but I believe the 'cheap' construction was to save costs as the M3 is also incredibly cutting corners everywhere except in actual functionality and technical specs. It was necessary in order to make the technology 'distilled from the OASYS' actually anywhere near affordable, apparently.
There is absolutely no need to judge a product based on where it is manufactured. China has a reputation for producing 'cheap toys' because for a long time that is all that they did produce, but there are also increasingly many quality products coming out of china. It may be made in china but it is still made to KORG's specifications.
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:58 pm
by tarek
There is absolutely no need to judge a product based on where it is manufactured. China has a reputation for producing 'cheap toys' because for a long time that is all that they did produce, but there are also increasingly many quality products coming out of china. It may be made in china but it is still made to KORG's specifications.[/quote]
every thing that come frm china is 2nd class even if its korg

or do u want me to be more frank esp korg

..why we dont see m3 comes out from china or extreme or osays..can u compare t3 to x5o from its quality side of course no even the official korg distrubuters are not satisfied from the chinese goods

so what ever u say and u cant convience any one or even inside ur self u know that japanse korg are not comperable to chinese in any aspect !!
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:00 pm
by mocando
It will drop your jaw to the floor to find out how many internals of the Japanese korgs are made in China. Back in the 70s japanese products where considered garbage and the best stuff was made in America or Germany or Italy. Now the tables has turned. The bad reputation chinese products have follows the same behavior. Almost ALL technology manufacturers use china for their low cost of labor, but quality controls assure high quality products. Whenever they are made.
The "cheappie" look of some korg products have to do with cutting corners to lower the selling price. But they are not cheap inside. I have opened wide open the M50 and I can say is a very well built piece of hardware.
All Korg keyboards used to be made in Japan and came with semi weighted keys, yes that is true. And is also true that in that time Korg keyboards cost thousands of dollars more than today "budget" line keyboards, but korg decided (as every other tech manufacturer) to broaden the spectrum and offer budget synths to more people. But for that cost must go down. 30 years ago an IBM PC-XT with a 10MB hard disk and 4.77 Mhz of speed cost 3.000 dollars. That's 3 grand for a computer that is less powerful than your cellphone. Ahh, but it was Made in America.
The sounds of the M50 not suitable for music production? What are you talking about??? It uses the same exact sound engine as the M3 and shares the EDS synthesis from the OASYS. You can hear an M3 using the same combi side by side to an M50 and you will find no difference in sound quality whatsoever.
Obviously you have "tried" but never used an M50. If you think current korg synths are so lousy, what are you doing here? Go get a Roland or a Yamaha. And good luck finding a touchscreen, 16 track layering, dual arpeggiators and so many other features on the same exact price range of the M50.
Or maybe you want an M3 at the price of an M50. Is that what you want ? Go ask Canon to get you a 1Ds Mk III for the price of a 50D.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:29 am
by Akos Janca
mocando wrote:The sounds of the M50 not suitable for music production? What are you talking about??? It uses the same exact sound engine as the M3 and shares the EDS synthesis from the OASYS.
Dear Martin,
OASYS has no EDS but HDS synthesis inside.
Best regards,
Akos
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:41 pm
by mocando
Right, but EDS was derived from the OASYS HD-1, and the M50 shares the same EDS engine. I was simply trying to demonstrate the M50's inheritance.
My intention is no other than showing that even being the M50 a budget minded product still have features and the synth engine of higher level workstations.