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Hi guys

So I make a 16 beat measure loop on the KOpro. The loop is not perfect so is there any way to trim the loop down or remove segments when overdubbing?

I can never get a perfect loop, anyone help

geewhizz wrote:Hi guys

So I make a 16 beat measure loop on the KOpro. The loop is not perfect so is there any way to trim the loop down or remove segments when overdubbing?

I can never get a perfect loop, anyone help

What usually do in the loop level/length feature is I'll just cut the measure if that helps, but out side of that nothing can be done on the KOPro itself. Now with the KP3 attached via midi for midi clock and taking the output of the Pro then I just sample it...Make sure the beat measure and bmp are the same...and you get a perfect copy of your loop sampled to one of the pads on the KP3. From there you can go into the slice edit feature on the KP3 and then make your corrections there; it works pretty well.

Practice, practice, practice.

I assume you mean the loops are not perfect because they either end too early or too late. Like Mr. SMK said, there's not really a way to tweak them in the KPro. My advice would be to lay down something steady first to use as a metronome. It obviously doesn't actually have to be a typical metronome sound, just something that you can play along with. A drum pattern, a rhythm using the gate arp, anything you can think of really. Until you get really good at just being able to bang out the loop exactly in time.

Mr36 wrote:Practice, practice, practice.

I assume you mean the loops are not perfect because they either end too early or too late. Like Mr. SMK said, there's not really a way to tweak them in the KPro. My advice would be to lay down something steady first to use as a metronome. It obviously doesn't actually have to be a typical metronome sound, just something that you can play along with. A drum pattern, a rhythm using the gate arp, anything you can think of really. Until you get really good at just being able to bang out the loop exactly in time.

Practice! yeah in the 1980s maybe.

Come on, its 2010, Roland loopers do it. I purchased this Korg item as I really like the user friendly way korg make their items.

Come on Korg! maybe The KOpro II will have this feature.

geewhizz wrote:

Mr36 wrote:Practice, practice, practice.

I assume you mean the loops are not perfect because they either end too early or too late. Like Mr. SMK said, there's not really a way to tweak them in the KPro. My advice would be to lay down something steady first to use as a metronome. It obviously doesn't actually have to be a typical metronome sound, just something that you can play along with. A drum pattern, a rhythm using the gate arp, anything you can think of really. Until you get really good at just being able to bang out the loop exactly in time.

Practice! yeah in the 1980s maybe.

Come on, its 2010, Roland loopers do it. I purchased this Korg item as I really like the user friendly way korg make their items.

Come on Korg! maybe The KOpro II will have this feature.

Dude, Roland Loopers do not do what you are asking for. There is no other way than to practice. As far as trimming you can get that from the KP3 Through its slice edit function, but again you are regulated to dealing with timing because you are still working with the measure you are in.

If you're looping in a span of 2 or 4 measures then your performance plus the timing in which you have to hit "record" has to be spot on.

I have owned the Boss Loopers and quite frankly because of the sheer design of the loopers (being sturdy for heavy stomping) you will have a slight delay. I traded my boss looping system in for the Korg Kaossilator because the looping feature was just better across the board. The first sound of 5 or more sound on sound layers was still just as crisp and clear as it was when I started, no degradation or distortion of sound. I couldn't get that with a boss lopper, forget it!

So yeah buddy, practice, practice, practice makes perfect and perfect loops you will have made.

Sorry for necroposting, but I'm experiencing the exact same annoyance with this device.

The very least they could have done is made overdubbing an option.

Its completely counterintuitive to streamline everything, and then force you to fight with your equipment using an extremely rudimentary method of loop generation.

I was expecting at the very least an option to do fixed loop recordings, so at least you could now how to adjust your timing without having to develop a paranoid complex trying to avoid the dreaded over dub.

It really just kills the creativity of a creativity tool such as this when such a glaring fault unnecessarily increases the difficulty factor.


Everything about this thing intuitively falls into place, if I wanted to practice so hard, perhaps I should just learn a REAL instrument and stick a tape recorder next to it and jam the record button when I'm finished.

Its about the same thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tojt8QhKrrk

Full props for having the courage to admit to the internet that you can't count to 4 reliably and have no desire to learn how to do so.

Kaden wrote:Full props for having the courage to admit to the internet that you can't count to 4 reliably and have no desire to learn how to do so.

That's not really the issue now is it?

Its not about "counting" its about improvising a feature that could be easily automated.

Its a hell of a lot easier to time a loop when you have an audio cue as to when it ends that doesn't consist of overdub. Even the simple act of the recording "cutting off", at the end of the count would give a good idea as to whether it needs to be changed.

I wish I had known that electribes do something like this, but not the KPro.

yourebuying wrote:

Kaden wrote:Full props for having the courage to admit to the internet that you can't count to 4 reliably and have no desire to learn how to do so.

That's not really the issue now is it?

Its not about "counting" its about improvising a feature that could be easily automated.

Its a hell of a lot easier to time a loop when you have an audio cue as to when it ends that doesn't consist of overdub. Even the simple act of the recording "cutting off", at the end of the count would give a good idea as to whether it needs to be changed.

I wish I had known that electribes do something like this, but not the KPro.

Well before you start running out to spend your earned quid on a new tribe, try setting loop bank "A" on your Ko Pro to 4 measures (shift bank "A") then go to the drum section, pick a drum sound, hold down the bank "A" button and hit the drum sound "ONCE" then let go of bank "A" button...you're done! Now you have your audio cue...helping you count 1, 2, 3, 4.

That's it, you are good to go!