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Hey guys,

I won't shout it, even though sounds like I've found the handle to read the files generated by M3 editor
I won't have much spare time in the next 2 months (Ph.D. thesis in Computer Science in progress ) but I would like to ask you to post which are the most important features a M3 librarian software should have.

Regards,

dade

Here's the things I've been looking for off the top of my head:

1. M50 .pcg compatibility
2. the ability to move patches up and down like you can with LeLibby
3. basic editing of patches (tempo, SW1/SW2 on/off, name, etc)
4. search for duplicates
5. copy/paste

As I think of more, I'll edit this post.

Thanks and good luck!

-Mc

I don't use an M3 or an M50 at the moment but I can tell you one thing that comes from KORG workstations in general that a librarian editor really should include:

checking or even better automatic checking and management of program dependancies to combis.

Hey, thank you for the responsive reply

Your suggestions sound very much like my initial idea about the features list.

Not being a lucky possessor of M50, I think I'll stick to M3 support at the moment.

Certainly, the first feature I will implement will be the ability to freely move combis and progs without letting it driving me crazy (actually, that's why I started to crawl into the file formats).

dadeit wrote:Not being a lucky possessor of M50, I think I'll stick to M3 support at the moment.

The M3 and M50 .pcg files are compatible with each other so it should be fairly easy to implement. I will be more than happy to test.

A quick update for all those who are following this thread:

At the moment I'm able (through code, no GUI yet) to:

- Read combi, combibank and combiall files
- Read program, programbank and programall files
- Change the order of Combis or Programs
- Rename Combis or Programs
- Change Tempo in Combis and Programs

Cheers

dade

same thing,

progressively more complex (starting from easisre, going to harder):

1) database search by ANY program parameter

(eg: list all programs which include distortion effect, or which use radias vocoder)

If you can do that, then why not the following:

2) same thing, but search based on parameter

(eg: search for all programs where osc sinc is activated, OR: all programs where filter cutoff is set to 45)

If you can do that, then why not the following:

3) search AND REPLACE based on parameter:

(eg: find all programs where I choose to modulate common LFO based on ribbon, and change that to aftertouch because I ned to gig with a different keyboard with no ribbon controller).

4) management of samples

5) I cast my vote for something which was already asked for:

managing the program/combi references (eg: I move a program, and the librarian scans combis for reference and edits them accordingly).

Thx

Hey, dade. Sounds like a cool project! I'm a graphic designer...would be more than happy to work with you on the GUI when you get there. (Just throwing it out there.)

Interesting project - hope you will eventually find the time to get it really done. Here are my thoughts.

Essential features:
1. move program or combi (or continous set of programs or combis) to another location w/o compromising consistency
2. copy program or combi to another location
3. delete program or combi (or continous set of programs or combis) i.e. initialize with "empty" settings
4. load & save combi/program/bank/all banks/User-defined KARMA GEs
5. receive/transmit combi/program/bank/user-defined KARMA GEs
6. disable/enable auto sync
7. easy to use and modern user interface

Nice-to-have features:
1. Some kind of "combi generation" support, e.g. create orchestral/pop/rock/R&B/funk/hip-hop/trance/techno/etc. combi with typical settings for that genre (instruments, GE assignment, effect assignment, control assignments, key splits, etc) - variations could be generated using a random function
2. Alternative: a "combi creation wizard" that guides you through a set of dialogs in order to manually set all required params
3. I also like the "search" functions described by ozy

Not needed:
Individual param settings can be done using the M3 Editor. IMO there is no need for "reinventing the wheel".

BTW, what programming language are you using?

Ok, my ideas are much similar to orpheus'.
- Arrange combis and progs is something that is really missing.
- Rename programs and combis
- Easy change the category of a sound
- I wasn't thinking of editing individiual parameters, at the moment i'm working directly on M3 Editor files, hence i think that the features of my tool should be complementary, not a superset of the ones of M3 Editor.
- Wizard to detect and delete combi or sound duplicates

At the moment i'm exploring the chances, enjoying the data format interpretation phase