hey, thanks for reading and please forgive me as i am new here!
i need your help on a korg related issue i am having!
my boyfriend has a huge wishlist for christmas and on it is the kaoss pad 3. my budget isn't quite up with that unforutnately, even with the likes of ebay! he also said he would like the kaoss pad 2, but i can only find these on ebay, again selling for more than i'd like, or me not being fast enough to bid! can you buy these new? i can't seem to find them anywhere.
as you can see, i'm not really knowledgable about these things (i did have an electribe once, i loved it but it was really more of a plaything than a serious musical tool!).
while i was looking for kaoss pads, i came across the kaossilator. not fully understanding the jargon, i am not sure how this differs greatly from the kaoss pad. can anyone shed a light on this for me? is it very similar to the kaoss pad? and if he is thinking that he likes the kaoss pad 3, would he like the kaossilator?
really i think he has seen it used by the likes of matt bellamy (who hasn't?!) and i think he would like to recreate some of the sounds used by him. my boyfriend is a guitarist but loves to mess things around with effects.
i hope he doesn't look in these forums...!
thanks you in advance for your help, most appreciated!
kaoss for christmas...
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The KP3 is primarily an effects unit that can play back some samples. The KP2 is basically the same but an older version - so is no longer in production.
The Kaossillator Pro and Kaossilator (original) are instruments in their own right. Instead of being an effect processor, you actually play sounds like piano, drums, synths, by moving your finger across the pad. The original (mini) can't add any effects to a guitar as it has no audio input, but the newer Kaossilator Pro does have a handful of effects and can record loops from the audio inputs. It is however the same if not more expensive as the KP3, being newer.
Anyway, if your boyfriend just wants to add effects to his guitar and such, you should look at the mini-KP. It is basically just an effect processor. Like the KP3 (and derived from it) but without the sampling or additional features. It is also smaller and battery powered. I've had great fun with mine tacked to the end of my guitar underneath the whammy/bridge. It's red too so it looks awesome
It also goes great with the 'vox amplug', which you can use as a preamplifier straight on the guitar jack, with a cable going to the mini-KP. Great combination actually, I'm thinking about integrating both straight into my guitar.
The Kaossillator Pro and Kaossilator (original) are instruments in their own right. Instead of being an effect processor, you actually play sounds like piano, drums, synths, by moving your finger across the pad. The original (mini) can't add any effects to a guitar as it has no audio input, but the newer Kaossilator Pro does have a handful of effects and can record loops from the audio inputs. It is however the same if not more expensive as the KP3, being newer.
Anyway, if your boyfriend just wants to add effects to his guitar and such, you should look at the mini-KP. It is basically just an effect processor. Like the KP3 (and derived from it) but without the sampling or additional features. It is also smaller and battery powered. I've had great fun with mine tacked to the end of my guitar underneath the whammy/bridge. It's red too so it looks awesome
It also goes great with the 'vox amplug', which you can use as a preamplifier straight on the guitar jack, with a cable going to the mini-KP. Great combination actually, I'm thinking about integrating both straight into my guitar.
Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
thanks so much for your reply.
yes i have seen the mini kp, i wasn't entirely sure if it was actually a mini version of the kp3 or a different thing altogether.
i wish i knew more about this stuff, and what he wants it for (without actually asking him... that might ruin the surprise...!). he does a lot of stuff with recording, on cubase and he does work for 2 bands, producing and mixing, etc. he has a bunch of stuff already; a korg keyboard/synth thing, he uses korg mixing desk for recording, a huge amp rack with loads of gadgets in there... so i'm not sure if the mini kp would be enough? i think he wants to do other stuff with it as well.
in this case, would the kaossilator be any use? or would you still go for the kaoss pad?
thanks
yes i have seen the mini kp, i wasn't entirely sure if it was actually a mini version of the kp3 or a different thing altogether.
i wish i knew more about this stuff, and what he wants it for (without actually asking him... that might ruin the surprise...!). he does a lot of stuff with recording, on cubase and he does work for 2 bands, producing and mixing, etc. he has a bunch of stuff already; a korg keyboard/synth thing, he uses korg mixing desk for recording, a huge amp rack with loads of gadgets in there... so i'm not sure if the mini kp would be enough? i think he wants to do other stuff with it as well.
in this case, would the kaossilator be any use? or would you still go for the kaoss pad?
thanks
The Kaossilator is a great 'toy' and instrument for improvising and experimenting when you're bored. But if he wants to do stuff with his guitar, a Kaoss Pad would still be a better option.
Functionally, as far as effects go, the mini-KP is fairly similar to the KP3. The main thing about the KP3 is the sampling/loops and motion recording. As an effects unit then either is fairly strong. I would normally have to say if you are only interested in effects then you might as well get the mini-KP, it will save a lot of money over the KP3.
As you say, it is difficult if you don't know what he'd want to do with it.
I suppose the Kaossilator makes a great present because it is quite fun, whereas the mini-KP needs other instruments to do much, but might be more useful to him in a literal sense. But I think either would be a good choice. Sorry I can't say outright "he wants xyz, get that", but hopefully that's some food for thought.
Functionally, as far as effects go, the mini-KP is fairly similar to the KP3. The main thing about the KP3 is the sampling/loops and motion recording. As an effects unit then either is fairly strong. I would normally have to say if you are only interested in effects then you might as well get the mini-KP, it will save a lot of money over the KP3.
As you say, it is difficult if you don't know what he'd want to do with it.
I suppose the Kaossilator makes a great present because it is quite fun, whereas the mini-KP needs other instruments to do much, but might be more useful to him in a literal sense. But I think either would be a good choice. Sorry I can't say outright "he wants xyz, get that", but hopefully that's some food for thought.
Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
thanks again for the replies.
Bowmoney, i saw the kp3 on that site, that is such a good price but as i am in the uk, the shipping is pretty high and makes it expensive again! not quite as much as if i were to buy it here though, so it may be my last resort...
X-Trade, thank you, and i have managed to do a bit of detective work and it turns out he definitely doesn't want the mini kp, so that cuts that out of the equasion! he said he wants to do effects on the guitar and keyboards through the kaoss pad. so it's kp2 or 3 that i have to find... personally, after doing my research i quite fancy the kaossilator! although i don't think it's quite right to buy him something i want for myself!
thanks again for all your help.
Bowmoney, i saw the kp3 on that site, that is such a good price but as i am in the uk, the shipping is pretty high and makes it expensive again! not quite as much as if i were to buy it here though, so it may be my last resort...
X-Trade, thank you, and i have managed to do a bit of detective work and it turns out he definitely doesn't want the mini kp, so that cuts that out of the equasion! he said he wants to do effects on the guitar and keyboards through the kaoss pad. so it's kp2 or 3 that i have to find... personally, after doing my research i quite fancy the kaossilator! although i don't think it's quite right to buy him something i want for myself!
thanks again for all your help.
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Eat-Static
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You should meet my wife she brought me a painting she wanted herself as a present last year and also to top that she got a personalized number plate for her car for xmas for me .although i don't think it's quite right to buy him something i want for myself!
But i still love her.
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See, I don't mean any offence but if he wants to add effects to guitar and keyboard and isn't interested in the additional features then the mini-KP is a great buy.
The KP3 and KP2 are probably more in his interests because they have been used with celebrity exposure for example Matt Bellamy from Muse (I think, writing off the top of my head here). but the mini-KP will do exactly the same thing (mostly) but in a smaller, cheaper, more portable package.
IMO the mini-KP would be best for what he wants to do. From what you've said anyway.
Still, you're right the Kaossillator makes a great present for someone musical in general, although it does not do what he asked for at all.
The KP3 and KP2 are probably more in his interests because they have been used with celebrity exposure for example Matt Bellamy from Muse (I think, writing off the top of my head here). but the mini-KP will do exactly the same thing (mostly) but in a smaller, cheaper, more portable package.
IMO the mini-KP would be best for what he wants to do. From what you've said anyway.
Still, you're right the Kaossillator makes a great present for someone musical in general, although it does not do what he asked for at all.
Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
not at all, as you already know, i'm not really knowledgable about this stuff which is why i came here to ask expert opinion!
it is really difficult to probe questions without giving the game away, i am pretty sure he is a bit suspicious already! to be honest, i have read about the mini kp, i don't know exactly why he doesn't want it (it may even be that he doesn't know that much about it either?), i don't think he wants to stick it onto his guitar like bellamy, but you don't have to do that, do you?! i think it sounds good.
also my budget isn't perhaps quite up to a kp3 anyway, and in the case, the mini kp is definitely the winner.
cheers for all your tips, has been really useful to me, i hope it all turns out alright in the end...!
it is really difficult to probe questions without giving the game away, i am pretty sure he is a bit suspicious already! to be honest, i have read about the mini kp, i don't know exactly why he doesn't want it (it may even be that he doesn't know that much about it either?), i don't think he wants to stick it onto his guitar like bellamy, but you don't have to do that, do you?! i think it sounds good.
also my budget isn't perhaps quite up to a kp3 anyway, and in the case, the mini kp is definitely the winner.
cheers for all your tips, has been really useful to me, i hope it all turns out alright in the end...!
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I just purchased two Mini KPs off ebay for under $150 USD for the pair! One for myself and one for a bandmate. They are great for adding effects to any external source and tons of fun too!
It might look like a toy (maybe why your boyfriend is leary) but they are very capable effects processors and even have some of their own sounds too
It might look like a toy (maybe why your boyfriend is leary) but they are very capable effects processors and even have some of their own sounds too
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For what it can do, the mini-KP is very capable machine, worth every penny.
If it what you want is just effects.
It all depends on what he's actually going to use it for and, in my experience, getting someone something that's like what they want but not actually what they want is a bit of a kick in the teeth.
Do you really want to see him say "oh, thanks..." in that fake appreciation way?
Just joking. The mini-KP and KP3 are both great. It just does depend what you what to use them for.
If it what you want is just effects.
It all depends on what he's actually going to use it for and, in my experience, getting someone something that's like what they want but not actually what they want is a bit of a kick in the teeth.
Do you really want to see him say "oh, thanks..." in that fake appreciation way?
Just joking. The mini-KP and KP3 are both great. It just does depend what you what to use them for.
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Communication is irrelevant if your girlfriend buys you music gear. I dare say this fellow's snagged a winner.Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:yeah but getting a surprise kaoss pad (mini or kp3 or otherwise) is pretty cool too!JinglesJapan wrote: Communication IS the backbone of any relationship... I think...
Go for the miniKP. The pad doesn't light up, but they're pretty awesome, plus if your boyfriend doesn't mind looking like a king of kludgery he can even gaffer tape it to his guitar!