Good headphones for my Oasys

[cello]

Sina - love your enthusiasm, so don't ever feel you have to apologise about being over the top (OT)!

Such enthusiasm is what makes people try new things, and that's what's good about this forum - we can read, try, learn, reject, adopt, enjoy.

I haven't tried your approach because I don't have the time I'd like to explore fully (day job, three kids, etc!). But you're making me think I should try, so if you have any tips on my setup, I'd be grateful. Do you suggest I put my two mics straight into the O?

But to try to stay on topic (sorry for expanding it! ), even with the O doing the mixing / mastering, how much do you rely on the headphones and remind me, what do you use and why? (Bearing in mind my mixed up world of acoustic and electronic!)

[Akos Janca]

Akos: even when I told you to cheer up, I asked "please". So, please... please learn saying "please" and asking people, not giving them orders.

I like when you are babbling - just to say anything. My posts contain that word. Have a look, please:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 926#357926
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 950#357950
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 043#358043

I am currently on AKG.

And not on OASYS, by the way. Read the title again, please.

Have a nice Sunday and Merry X-Mas, all of you

Did you really mean it? And you are here again? It was a short absence. How can we believe you at all? OK, I stop, I won't feed a troll.

As I am sure you are aware, this forum like the internet in general is made up of people from all over the world and from a wide variety of backgrounds and cultures, so I think one has to be quite open minded and less judgemental when it comes to reading other people's views.

The problem is that I don't feel many of you are "open minded and less judgemental" when reading my views. I thought it was a kind of "elite club" (gentlemen, good will, honesty etc.) - but after what happened here I'm confused and disappointed.

[Dany]

Greetings from a Swiss citizen and half hungarian to my Magyar barát! (My mother and her family came to Switzerland escaping the russian invasion in 1956, because they were put on a death list by the communists).
It is funny to see, that we all are a part of the same generation ( I am 43) but I am still waiting to become an adult....

I use and recommend the AKG K702 and they are much less expensive than the other high-end top products of other brands. They sound almost like speakers and indeed not like headphones and are therefore perfectly suited for the OASYS and producing in general. But just for listening to music, I prefer the AKG K240-MkII.

(BTW: Related to a previous post I have this message for Peter Mahr and Kevin Nolan: I will publish some of the sy99 sounds, that I have transfered to the OASYS, online for free, just give me some time please! Finally to transfer the sounds, you just have to emulate the operator structures of the SY99 on the MOD-7 and then you have to calculate all the parameter values by "rule of threes" and adjust them by comparing and listening with your ears. Concerning the SY99 samples, you can either sample the SY99-Samples with the OASYS or just use similar samples from the OASYS)

And finally completely off-topic: Kevin, do you know this breathtaking picture from Mars? http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12 ... 805725.gif ...please study the scale and proportions: Scaled image width: 2.85 km, Scaled image height: 13.19 km, Scaled pixel width: 2.77 meters ! (Intense Zoom-In recommended...)

[Kontrol49]

now THAT's weird! Is everybody here 46, but me?.

No....I'm a 38 year old Forensic Pathologist...

[peter m. mahr]

I use two Shure Sm57 mics. They go straight into the D3200. Haven't tried using the O for this part - sina swears by the O for mixing but I haven't attempted it. But am going to have a look at the link you posted...

I am sure you have googled for best micing positions already. But cello, could you please explain a bit further why it does not sit in the mix?

The Mastering Limiter and Mastering 3 Band EQ effects are as good, if not better than some of the best mastering units out there. SPL and Manley come to mind here.

Although I never had the chance to work with SPL's or Manley's high end EQs and therefore cannot compare. But OASYS' Mastering Limiter and 3 Band EQ are of good quality. I agree with Kevin concerning modulation EFX, I think Roland is a better. BUT in general internal EFX in OASYS are of high quality. Additionally for mastering I am using PSP's Vintage Warmer, which I recommend. Sometimes I use it for tracking. For cellos I doubt it to be a good choice. My guess is that you need something more transparent sounding. Would need to listen to the problem.

For mastering maybe Korg's MR-2000S could be the solution you are looking for.

I will publish some of the sy99 sounds, that I have transfered to the OASYS

Great! Dany, I am looking forward to hear them. Thanks in advance.

And finally coming on topic again:

... I am using the K240 and sometimes the K70something. Alone from the fact that I do not know the exact model name of the latter one can conclude how often I am using it. AKG improved the bass end in one of its K240 models. Mixing in headphones only is in my opinion quite tricky and needs some experience.

Peter

[Sina172]

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[peter m. mahr]

The preamps in the OASYS while they are amazing, are very transparent.

.. and therefore they could be worth a try. It would cost cello not any additional money.

[Akos Janca]

...the first picture, which was definitely some soft porn,...

OK. I write this to the moderators: Sharp and Admin.

Do we really need it on Korgforums.com? Sharp, do you want to pay the hosting for lesbian soft porn? I'm a bit surprised. I hope you are not proud of what's going on here.

I don't like finding adult material on a musicians' site. Please consider that children may also visit the forum. As a member I kindly but definitely ask you the moderators to remove Hedegaard's off topic post with the mentioned photo.

If you disagree, please answer here why. I still hope I'm not on a wrong site.

Thank you in advance,
Akos

[Sina172]

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[Kevin Nolan]

Greetings from a Swiss citizen and half hungarian to my Magyar barát! (My mother and her family came to Switzerland escaping the russian invasion in 1956, because they were put on a death list by the communists).
It is funny to see, that we all are a part of the same generation ( I am 43) but I am still waiting to become an adult....

I use and recommend the AKG K702 and they are much less expensive than the other high-end top products of other brands. They sound almost like speakers and indeed not like headphones and are therefore perfectly suited for the OASYS and producing in general. But just for listening to music, I prefer the AKG K240-MkII.

(BTW: Related to a previous post I have this message for Peter Mahr and Kevin Nolan: I will publish some of the sy99 sounds, that I have transfered to the OASYS, online for free, just give me some time please! Finally to transfer the sounds, you just have to emulate the operator structures of the SY99 on the MOD-7 and then you have to calculate all the parameter values by "rule of threes" and adjust them by comparing and listening with your ears. Concerning the SY99 samples, you can either sample the SY99-Samples with the OASYS or just use similar samples from the OASYS)

And finally completely off-topic: Kevin, do you know this breathtaking picture from Mars? http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12 ... 805725.gif ...please study the scale and proportions: Scaled image width: 2.85 km, Scaled image height: 13.19 km, Scaled pixel width: 2.77 meters ! (Intense Zoom-In recommended...)

Hi Dany -

Thanks for your offer to provide some SY99 converted sounds - that is truly appreciated and please take all the time you need - but ultimately I would be delighted to avail of them - I still use the SY99 and would surely learn a bucket load from your work. But as said - please feel under no time pressure whatsoever.

Regarding the Mars image, I'm not familiar with this one. It's from the now defuncted Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) which is still in orbit around Mars but was sent a bad piece of reprogramming 4-5 years ago and we lost touch with it. Otherwise it'd still be going strong today. It sent over 250,000 images of Mars back to Earth, and using a fabulous technique of dithering the spacecraft (called cproto) they could reach resolutions of under 3 metres on the surface as you reveal so well in this magnificent picture.

What researching for my book revealed (I had to read literally hundreds of peer-review papers during my research) is that Mars is a very active place, with a 4-billion year legacy of past activity too. So it is simply too early to draw conclusions about the planet, its past activity and the prospects for life, past and present (though they look quite good (but no where near conclusive) for past life having emerged). Rather, we need to decipher the planet on a metre-scale and over time frames of thousands-of-years in its long history - so that's a lot of mineralogy and geology to study.

I looked but couldn't find the caption to the image you point to (and I'm a physicist, not a geologist), so my appraisal of the image will be superficial, but what you can see is a very intricate pattern of lines on the surface and this must suggest a region-wide active process, whether past ot present. Seeing detail like this tells you there's a story to be uncovered here. What that is I'm not sure. But my research for my book has tuned my mind to the Martian landscape - when the Phoenix probe landed there in 2008 I remember seeing a similar regular pattern in the 1st images that on the face of it look boring but I immediately knew there was a story to be told and sure enough all they had to do was scoop away a few centimetres of red dust and there in front of us was pure water-ice, verifying that indeed the entire polar regions of Mars to 60-degrees north and sound are composed of at least 50% water-ice. The regular pattern was associated with activity within that vast ice permafrost!

So this image is incredible in its detail, and I'm sure there's an equally compelling story behind that myriad of criss-cross lines. Mars is an awesome world; and hence there are genuinely good reasons to explore it (as I argue in my book!!).

Sorry I can’t be more specific on this pocture, but you are correct - it's a magnificent picture - thanks for pointing it out.

Kevin.


PS - Sorry for hogging this thread - any more discussion on Mars will be by PM - promise.

[ozy]

if by "hogging" you mean "spreading knowledge", albeit slighltly OT,

well, please hog, IMHO.

Reading competent digressions is always an aesthetic pleasure. Competence is beautiful in itself. And is becoming increasingly rare.

[Dany]

...I looked but couldn't find the caption to the image you point to ...

Here it is: (Mars south polar region)
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12 ... 05725.html
(You will realize that those "lines" show sometimes a shadow on the ground (which structures should be analyzed as well), so those "lines" seem to be three-dimensional structures...and remember the scale!!!)
...sorry to all participants of this forum for beeing completely off-topic again, so Kevin, maybe we should continue this "discussion" in privat...

[Sharp]

Sharp, do you want to pay the hosting for lesbian soft porn? I'm a bit surprised.

Of course I don't, but I also have no idea what your referring to. Who's posting porn ?

Regards
Sharp.

[ozy]

come on...

one silly forumer posted a spicy [and inappropriate] picture, but he removed it long ago, as soon as Akos complained.

There's been 10 square centimeters of naked women and 2000 pages of rants and raves and impolite comments (to everybody, not only to the offender) about it.

It was not gratuitous spam, it was an ill-advised joke about "headphones" (two women kissing while wearing headphones). The offender regretted it and removed the post. That's fair for me.

It was wrong, but it's over. Enough!

I myself said that I don't condone homosexuality, especially as an object of voyeurism, much less on a synthesizer forum, but enough is enough!

We are talking about headphones and converters, but the thread has been hijacked by Akos' personal grudge against Herengard or whazzisname.

It's over!

[Akos Janca]

Sharp, do you want to pay the hosting for lesbian soft porn? I'm a bit surprised.

Of course I don't, but I also have no idea what your referring to. Who's posting porn ?

Regards
Sharp.

Dear Sharp, I quoted ozy. He thinks this picture that Hedegaard posted is soft porn. And I agree, too:

...the first picture, which was definitely some soft porn,...

I think Hedegaard could tell more about the origin of the picture (I doubt he got it from a music magazine) and his allusion. Or may I start a general poll titled "Soft porn or headphones advert"?

...one silly forumer posted a spicy [and inappropriate] picture, but he removed it long ago, as soon as Akos complained...

…it was an ill-advised joke about "headphones" (two women kissing while wearing headphones). The offender regretted it and removed the post.

Sharp, I wouldn't call a fellow member "silly". Additionally, Ozy is wrong. (Sorry, I've almost written: "lying" but then I changed my mind.) Fact: the picture is still there.

I myself said that I don't condone homosexuality, especially as an object of voyeurism, much less on a synthesizer forum…

1. I'm very glad to hear what ozy says now - he has completely changed in a short time.
2. If that picture is OK, then may I also post for example: kissing men, kissing man and pig etc.? With headphones, certainly.

We are talking about headphones and converters, but the thread has been hijacked by Akos' personal grudge against Herengard or whazzisname.

Sharp, it's wrong again and offending me personally. I haven't hijacked the thread (but ozy did starting from this post). Neither I have personal grudge against Heregaard. I simply asked him friendly and politely to remove the picture. Based on his last post I'm sure ozy would like it, too:

...The offender regretted it and removed the post. That's fair for me.