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Sorry, direct-from-disk streaming is a REALLY BIG FEATURE. It puts all others to shame. To hell with Motif XF and it's overpriced 2x2 GB of flash ROM. Kronos has 30 GB of SSD INSTANTLY AVAILABLE.

Not to mention FINALLY seamless patch transition. Set List feature is also pretty amazing (sort of like Quick Access mode on Kurzweil PC3).

That's BIG. And solely that feature puts it above OASYS in my eyes. Now, let's just wait for the price...

fallingman wrote:

So they've managed to squeeze the best bits of the OASYS and M3 into a new box powered by a proprietary processor presumably?

I don't wanna be cynical but I expected more - there's nothing particularly groundbreaking here, though as ever the price point will be key, and what really makes it attractive, I guess.

Proprietary hardware/processor for sure, i'm more confident in that then in oasys "computer" structure.

I agree with you that's "only" a repacking of existing synthesis + some extras (pianos...streming...) BUT, what is groundbreaking is THE PRICE !!!!. THIS PRICE CAN ONLY BE LOW as it is just because it's almost all known synthesis/specs since several years.

I think It's a great product and it's welcomed. i was an happy oasys owner, sold it almost 3 years ago, now i know why !! LOL. Now oasys owner must keep it, because it costs less than 2000 € as second hand, for sure..... UNLESS an update is coming ? don't think so unfortuantely

I never saw an OASYS going below $4000 second hand...

I presume Kronos will be somewhere in $3000-$4000 range.



You guys still don't seem to get it that it's not "only" repackaging. SAMPLE STREAMING IS PRICELESS AND A GAME CHANGER IN WORKSTATION WORLD! You will see.

Hi Cello.

Gr8 idea for a post.

You said "Please - this is not a hate Korg post for such broken promises, or no function for the function button, poor sequencer, no new sounds, etc (already many threads on this subject)" Good for you, buddy. You are correct. Mad attitudes (justified and/or not) can be dispensed of on every level when asked for. Let's be meek musicians and architects of our musical endeavors without the critique of being well versed and educated haters of our beloved nemesis, the Oasys. I say that knowing that few of us are real haters of the Oasys or Korg.

Here's a thought and a projection: (Thought, first) Kronos is/will be what Oasys should/could have been except for Korg was already (with Oasys) walking the financial plank- endeavoring to explore the pinnacle of workstation Kingdomination (new word). Maybe- just maybe they were as scared as "us" considering how much money this Oasys thingy was going to cost. When the sales numbers were down compared to expectations they did what a company has to do. TRY like heck to make the (apparently) limited customer base happy while abandoning the project based upon failed financial REQUIREMENTS! It's a harsh reality to a lot of people. I bet Jerry and Ken have not thoroughly enjoyed defending Korg while we went on the attack. They are guys that have a lot of heart and soul into their work. And it shows!! Thank you for them!

My second thought being this: Watch this forum in the next 5 years. Watch and see the new generation of Workstaion King owners, yes, the new Korg Kronos owners--- fight over their hate and frustration of shortfalls and lack of desired support and sound and effects and and and and releases.

In five years from now I may not even recall this thread. I think I will, though. Maybe you (the group) will as well. Watch the haters (I definitely use that term loosely) well up and spew their venom. We did. They will, too.

My wish for Oasys updates: Just that Korg says by virtue of their actions, "You guys, we are thinking of you and don't want your $8500 (or whatever) dollar investment to feel like it was not noticed. We did some backwards compatibility stuff the best that could be done and now you have some cool stuff (no, not all of it- obviously) that the Kronos does. Here's another set of sounds. Here's some new FX presets." Yeah, they have done a lot of this stuff already. Just a few more. Not even necessarily for free. Just a bone or two for the hungry dawg... who already paid some of his/her do's.

Again, Cello, great idea for a post. Let's amp up the "cool" aspects of our Oasys investment. Let's ask (with low expectations) for more stuff. I like Korg. Am I ever mad? Who cares!! Wanna see pics of my studio?? It is predominantly KORG! And not by a small margin.


Sincere regards.
UCanDream aka David

EvilDragon wrote:I never saw an OASYS going below $4000 second hand...

I presume Kronos will be somewhere in $3000-$4000 range.

yes, but now it will ! for sure!

Korg, as David says above, we love the O, we love what it can do, we love that you made it, but please, please, give us a scrap or two from the Kronos table

Don't make us feel that not only we were we left high and dry when the O was discontinued, that now, you concentrate to return on investment through the mass-market Kronos whilst we have an antique curiosity only of interest to collectors & museums ...

The O is the best equipment in the world (and likely to stay that way for a while yet) and I sincerely doubt I'll ever stop using it, or ever consider selling it. The O is that good, even with its niggles.

RC-IA wrote:yes, but now it will ! for sure!

I wouldn't bet on it. OASYS is and will remain a premium item. You won't get it for peanuts, ever.

EvilDragon wrote:

RC-IA wrote:yes, but now it will ! for sure!

I wouldn't bet on it. OASYS is and will remain a premium item. You won't get it for peanuts, ever.

well, you know i would prefer that, been a oasys user too some years ago and i would be mad today if i still had it. Maybe th oasys will stay at a high second hand price BUT it won't sell, people will prefer to go for the New one, for sure.

RC-IA wrote:

EvilDragon wrote:

RC-IA wrote:yes, but now it will ! for sure!

I wouldn't bet on it. OASYS is and will remain a premium item. You won't get it for peanuts, ever.

well, you know i would prefer that, been a oasys user too some years ago and i would be mad today if i still had it. Maybe th oasys will stay at a high second hand price BUT it won't sell, people will prefer to go for the New one, for sure.

With still having my O, it make more sense to hold on to it now than sell it (don't want to yet - I've still got so much to learn on it!). I can hope that the folks at Korg look favourably on a request to have something to keep the O 'current'.

cello wrote:
With still having my O, it make more sense to hold on to it now than sell it (don't want to yet - I've still got so much to learn on it!). I can hope that the folks at Korg look favourably on a request to have something to keep the O 'current'.

yes that's the best to do, keep it

3300 Oasys users in the world ... Not enought for korg to developp an update.... I am very hangry to see the spec of the Kronos

I still hope that there is another hope to have an update, either a compatibility between oasys and kronos. If it is not the case, ever I shall not buy a korg product

I don't believe there will be a free upgrade/update, if any. Why wouldn't Korg ask money for it? It's the result of their work, they spent time on creating it, didn't they?

@ UCanDream (David) - thank you for your boundless enthusiasm and helping us keep the focus and keep the faith!

Akos Janca wrote:I don't believe there will be a free upgrade/update, if any. Why wouldn't Korg ask money for it? It's the result of their work, they spent time on creating it, didn't they?

I agree Akos. We should pay for any upgrade. However, it's interesting that folks are saying that some of the Kronos PCGs are compatible with the O.

Wondering how we get our hands on the PCGs though - I have money waiting, Korg! I'll pay up to $500 for an OASYS-adapted Kronos PCG set...

cello wrote:I have money waiting, Korg!

I also have money, in OASYS. I'm interested in KRONOS - will I have to sell the O...?

Akos Janca wrote:

cello wrote:I have money waiting, Korg!

I also have money, in OASYS. I'm interested in KRONOS - will I have to sell the O...?

I guess this is going to be the clincher for a minority of Oasys onwers,should I sell it to get the Kronos???is it worth the extra specs and financial loss of your original machine??

If you can sell it and make enough to cover the Kronos price tag for the model you want is....well anyone's guess.

I do think that Kronos has certainly shook the secondhand value of the Oasys,not overnight but down to how the buyer can have a hold over the prices now,simply because anyone who would perhaps be interested in the Oasys secondhand now has an alternative....and brand new at that,so in terms of Devaluing the Oasys yes it has,to a certain degree,but only in respects that its only worth as much as someone is going to pay for it when they have a choice of other options for the same or perhaps less money


The only advantage the Oasys has now is that is was a minimal units production run so in years to come may be sought after,and kind of a unique offering other than that I think any oasys owner who sells there synth to fund the Kronos is daft.

The more I see the demos of The Kronos the more Oasys appears as superior makes me feel less and less deflated over what korg have done when really apart from a few cosmetic changes and additional engines the Oasys really isn't worth parting with for a Kronos.

If you bought the Oasys brand new you'd be daft to sell it to fund a kronos,there were very few people who still would buy an oasys secondhand now or have the cash to pay for one,its was certainly a sellers market 12 month ago now the ball is in the Buyers court as Korg have opened a can of worms but a few years down the line it may come full circle again being a small amount of units made of the oasys.

Not once has the Kronos made me think about selling the Oasys to fund it nor do I have any desire to buy a Kronos to add to it theres far too much crossover at that price tag its not justifiable,that your parting with money for the sake of it if you add a Kronos to an Oasys,the only thing in the Kronos favour is that its perhaps an alternative to gig with rather than take an O out on the road,infact quite the opposite its made me see the true worth of the oasys.

From a personal view is the oasys worth selling to buy a Kronos....


Well given what minimal updates The Kronos has over the Oasys....

Its like selling your right arm just to purchase an extra finger on your left arm!