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Hedegaard wrote:

Naviára wrote:This diskstreaming feature is not a big thing, software sampler use this many years, I had a piano plugin running (The Grand) on a P3-600Mhz with a slow IDE Drive and 512MB RAM without any dropouts... so with an O and 2 GB of RAM (and without the windows brake in the background) it's not a problem at all! I think the main reason for the SSD: it's quiter and it's not so sensitive when you take the Kronos with you on tour...

greetings,
A.

But the difference is, that was on a computer!
This is a synthesizer workstation, musical instrument.

you can't compare apples and a wooden plank.

yes, thats right... but what I want to say is: diskstreaming is also possible on the O even if it's no SSD installed, on a 2GB O, the extra memory could be used as streaming buffer.

A.

Have you got a korg email to ask us for an update ?

TonyGen wrote:

Kontrol49 wrote:

TonyGen wrote: .

Maybe Oasys owners should just refer to Kronos as Oasys 2 from now on.

Tony.

Thats its......

Korg
Rejects
Oasys 1
Now
Oasys the
Second is out

Excellent. How about:

Korg
Re-hashes
Oasys
Neglecting
Ongoing
Support

Very accurate,
Both .

Naviára wrote:

Hedegaard wrote:

Naviára wrote:This diskstreaming feature is not a big thing, software sampler use this many years, I had a piano plugin running (The Grand) on a P3-600Mhz with a slow IDE Drive and 512MB RAM without any dropouts... so with an O and 2 GB of RAM (and without the windows brake in the background) it's not a problem at all! I think the main reason for the SSD: it's quiter and it's not so sensitive when you take the Kronos with you on tour...

greetings,
A.

But the difference is, that was on a computer!
This is a synthesizer workstation, musical instrument.

you can't compare apples and a wooden plank.

yes, thats right... but what I want to say is: diskstreaming is also possible on the O even if it's no SSD installed, on a 2GB O, the extra memory could be used as streaming buffer.

A.

Ok, I understand. But still not sure if that would be possible, because the O has a lot to do and HD's spinning like a merry-go-round all day would shorten its life.
Furthermore, its not JUST streaming, you have to take into account a lot of other things too.
But ask Korg R&D for the blueprints Then we can all see what we can do with our O's....

Ok, I understand. But still not sure if that would be possible, because the O has a lot to do and HD's spinning like a merry-go-round all day would shorten its life.

I was under the impression that all the samples get loaded into RAM at start-up and the hard disk goes to sleep until we do something on the 'disk' page? can someone confirm?

Hedegaard wrote:

Naviára wrote:

Hedegaard wrote: But the difference is, that was on a computer!
This is a synthesizer workstation, musical instrument.

you can't compare apples and a wooden plank.

yes, thats right... but what I want to say is: diskstreaming is also possible on the O even if it's no SSD installed, on a 2GB O, the extra memory could be used as streaming buffer.

A.

Ok, I understand. But still not sure if that would be possible, because the O has a lot to do and HD's spinning like a merry-go-round all day would shorten its life.
Furthermore, its not JUST streaming, you have to take into account a lot of other things too.
But ask Korg R&D for the blueprints Then we can all see what we can do with our O's....

I don't think thats a real problem at all for the HDD... it's more a problem if you transport your Oasys not right, the Kronos is the better deal if you want to use O sound on stage!!

There is still one point to be mentioned here: The Oasys and the Kronos are completly software instruments with a midi controller attached to it - The only hardware difference between them are the audio interface, the USB port and the higher resolution tochscreen. So the new features are mostly solved by software, wich also could run perfectly on the O itself. I'm sure while they developed the Kronos OS they are using the O for betatesting and changed the hardware features later!

The question is not... if Korg could make the PCG / PRG / COMBI of the Kronos compatible with Oasys... The question is - why releasing modified PCG if you can use the entire software itself on the Oasys, making the Kronos and Oasys 100% compatible to each other....

Korg should think about that, that is the way to go... Korg have to bring the Oasys to the same software level of the Kronos and make all sides happy!!

greetings
A.

Naviára wrote: I don't think thats a real problem at all for the HDD... it's more a problem if you transport your Oasys not right, the Kronos is the better deal if you want to use O sound on stage!!

There is still one point to be mentioned here: The Oasys and the Kronos are completly software instruments with a midi controller attached to it - The only hardware difference between them are the audio interface, the USB port and the higher resolution tochscreen. So the new features are mostly solved by software, wich also could run perfectly on the O itself. I'm sure while they developed the Kronos OS they are using the O for betatesting and changed the hardware features later!

The question is not... if Korg could make the PCG / PRG / COMBI of the Kronos compatible with Oasys... The question is - why releasing modified PCG if you can use the entire software itself on the Oasys, making the Kronos and Oasys 100% compatible to each other....

Korg should think about that, that is the way to go... Korg have to bring the Oasys to the same software level of the Kronos and make all sides happy!!

greetings
A.

Oh I wish that could be done and would be true, then Korg would lose money, because some Oasys users would not buy the Kronos....

Here there is a Oasys user that doesn´t go to buy a Kronos.
But I´ll buy expansions for Oasys.

Hedegaard wrote:Oh I wish that could be done and would be true, then Korg would lose money, because some Oasys users would not buy the Kronos....

If Korg intentionally did this then I'm canceling my Kronos order.

Trinity2112 wrote:

Hedegaard wrote:Oh I wish that could be done and would be true, then Korg would lose money, because some Oasys users would not buy the Kronos....

If Korg intentionally did this then I'm canceling my Kronos order.

For people who don't want to take their expensive and heavy Oasys on tour.. the Kronos is the perfect live machine... Just look it at this way: If both machines share the same OS you could use your O safe at home, transfer your sets to the light weight Kronos and take it with you on tour if you need the O sounds.... I would buy one next year if both share the same OS.... It's easy.. no OS update on the O - no Kronos for me in the future...

A.

Naviára wrote:

Trinity2112 wrote:

Hedegaard wrote:Oh I wish that could be done and would be true, then Korg would lose money, because some Oasys users would not buy the Kronos....

If Korg intentionally did this then I'm canceling my Kronos order.

For people who don't want to take their expensive and heavy Oasys on tour.. the Kronos is the perfect live machine... Just look it at this way: If both machines share the same OS you could use your O safe at home, transfer your sets to the light weight Kronos and take it with you on tour if you need the O sounds.... I would buy one next year if both share the same OS.... It's easy.. no OS update on the O - no Kronos for me in the future...

A.

The truth is only that Korg has treated us like retards. This isn't good from them.

Naviára wrote: There is still one point to be mentioned here: The Oasys and the Kronos are completly software instruments... So the new features are mostly solved by software, wich also could run perfectly on the O itself. I'm sure while they developed the Kronos OS they are using the O for betatesting and changed the hardware features later!

Yes. Probably they did.
Surely most of the OS is the same.

The question is not... if Korg could make the PCG / PRG / COMBI of the Kronos compatible with Oasys... The question is - why releasing modified PCG if you can use the entire software itself on the Oasys, making the Kronos and Oasys 100% compatible to each other....

As Mr. Malkovich says in Nescafe ads: "Make and educated guess."

Korg should think about that, that is the way to go... Korg have to bring the Oasys to the same software level of the Kronos and make all sides happy!!

+1
Agreed on everything, as usual, fellow.

dranandj wrote: I was under the impression that all the samples get loaded into RAM at start-up and the hard disk goes to sleep until we do something on the 'disk' page? can someone confirm?

Yes, this is the way it works.

Samples are loaded into 1Gb (or 2Gb if you expanded it) And the HD is used as storage only.