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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:22 pm
by Kevin Nolan
Colleagues,
We have debated this over and over and over. OASYS is finished several years! It's a done deal! Korg were not even silent on it - Jerry has a sticky post, on this forum, explaining that OASYS development ceased in 2008. He and Dan have explained over and over how regretable it was but the realities of business forced the decision.
The eternal cries for more for OASYS stuff are never, ever going to happen. Korg have long since moved on.
So give it up. Even if you feel aggrieved - you;ve aired it - and you're going to have to live with it. Even if you feel Korg are unjust, you're going to have to live with it.
Currently not one person in Korg is giving OASYS any thought or effort. It's just not on their minds or on the agenda. So there will be no updates, unlocked EXi's... _Perhaps_ we can hope for a bundle deal or sale price - but even that is highly unlikely because it's a finished item which means nobody in Korg is giving that any thought. I'm mean for God sake - they didn't even mention OASYS as the legacy of Kronos - just what do you expect after that. Think about it - Korg could not bring themselves to mention OASYS even once. Clearly they have moved on, for good!
So I really recommend you drop it - Korg do not owe you anything - you bought the OASYS - it was your decision, you have an awesome workstation that got numerous OS upgrades and EXi's - and please, please do NOT cite that God damn brochure claiming updates for years to come (Yamaha in 1989 claimed they'd have a Millennium Party for all SY77 users and guess what ....). That's marketing hype. Surely you knew that?
I'm posting this because there are a hell of a lot of posts arising again over a very, very old and tired debate about the (nonexistent) future for OASYS and surely we've said all there is to say on that?
Kevin.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:03 pm
by Akos Janca
Kevin, I fully understand and please believe I would really like to agree.
(Perhaps you've got some official information from inside.)
If the sw development is finished for ever then WHY Korg don't want to declare it with one simple word. To whom would it cause any harm?
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:27 pm
by TonyGen
Kevin Nolan wrote:That's marketing hype. Surely you knew that?
Well I didn't. So can I have my money back?
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:03 pm
by cello
Ah, Kevin - I do get where you're coming from... seriously I do. There are posts that we all find tiresome - I for example will not even look anymore at the threads that suggest that next Kronos upgrade (!) should have have everything that Korg have ever made (and ideally a bit of Kurzweil, a bit of Yamaha - would be great if it was the CS-80!). Oh yeah - nearly forgot, best if you make it a rack version too.
Now THAT is absolutely not going to happen. Yes. I realise I am exaggerating above - but that's how ridiculous it all seems to me.
And they've not even played the thing, nor created any music with it.
However, as you know well, Korg haven't said it's the complete end of the road for the O - anywhere. Yes, there is the sticky you mentioned but that relates only to production stopping. It does not say there will never be anything for the O again.
And if what you say is true (and I do know you have Korg-inside connections through beta-testing and such), where is the deafening voice of Korg shouting on all threads stating categorically, no more anything for OASYS?
As you observe, so many posts about the whole situation O users find themselves in, and not one from Korg.
Why? Surely it's not a difficult thing to ask, if what you're saying is correct.
All we want to know is where we stand.
In fact, I hope Korg makes a statement for O users ("final update in 4 months, chargeable $500 then no more" - or of course, "That's it over. Goodnight") and for K future users ("There will be no rack version and we're not putting the monotron in the Kronos - jeez.").
Then we can both enjoy not seeing very repetitive posts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:32 pm
by SoulBe
All we want to know is where we stand.
That´s it. Not more, not less. As long as there is no clear statement from Korg they have to listen to their users posts. And as Akos stated: if you read Jerry´s post it only announces the end of the production of units, further developments/improvements they cannot promise.... but we had that, it seem that they did development on/for Kronos, so without solid statement to O users Korg gives us space to hope ....
best regards
SoulBe
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:16 am
by Kevin Nolan
You know where you stand - OASYS was cancelled two years ago.
Korg do not owe you another statement - they already made that statement (it's a sticky post on this forum - suggest you read it!). There's nothing ambiguous about it and this is old information !!
Again - there's nothing coming down the line from Korg w.r.t OASYS.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:23 am
by McRos
Kevin Nolan wrote:You know where you stand - OASYS was cancelled two years ago.
Korg do not owe you another statement - they already made that statement (it's a sticky post on this forum - suggest you read it!). There's nothing ambiguous about it and this is old information !!
Again - there's nothing coming down the line from Korg w.r.t OASYS.
Please shut up.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:26 am
by cello
Kevin Nolan wrote:You know where you stand - OASYS was cancelled two years ago.
Korg do not owe you another statement - they already made that statement (it's a sticky post on this forum - suggest you read it!). There's nothing ambiguous about it and this is old information !!
Again - there's nothing coming down the line from Korg w.r.t OASYS.
Then in which case Korg can do us the courtesy of confirming that. The sticky you refer to is about production. And Jerry says ...
We have recently released some system tweaks/bug fixes and have plans for some more ongoing sound support, like the new sounds we just released.
Which is hardly the definitive 'end of the road' statement you imply.
But as I say it can all be easily resolved - Korg simply has to do an email broadcast through korguser.net to let us know the current position. It's a binary situation and I cannot fathom out why Korg can state neither and remain silent.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:26 am
by SoulBe
Kevin Nolan wrote: (it's a sticky post on this forum - suggest you read it!)
Hi Kevin,
well I read it over and over ..(maybe too often ...

) but as I am no native speaker I guess I cannot read all between the lines, so .......
best regards
SoulBe
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:58 am
by Kevin Nolan
God loves a trier - I get where you are all coming from - trying to put pressure on Korg - but - it's over - give it up! OASYS is a done deal. How many different ways can this be stated? They discontinued it - two years ago - there are no updates coming. It was officially discontinued.
Again I remind you (of my personal disappointment) that Korg could not even bring themselves to mention OASYS as the origin of Kronos. So just how much focus do you think Korg are giving OASYS right now? The answer is completely clear and 100% definitive - none. Again - OASYS is history.
If you and others here are really looking for new features for music sake - Kronos is now your focus. But if this is just yet another cry of foul play, then it's falling on deaf ears - and again - we've been through this in true depth (and to the new poster who told me to shut up - I suggest you go back over past threads in this forum and take a look at the depth of analysis done on this two years ago).
Now - if this is not clear enough for you then you are franlkly not listening - this is your problem and you'll have to just live with it.
And I have to say - I'm an getting tired of the OASYS forum being virtually completely hijacked again by these tired old, pointless arguements. We've been through all of this - including a plethora of responses by Dan and Jerry - pleaee use the search button and read them before presenting the same re-used arguements and points.
OASYS is past. There will be no more statements from Korg. It's definitive and you must accept that and stop going over and over and over the ame bloody ground.
Sharp - is there any way you could consolidate all of these old pointeless threads into one overarching one, or lock a few of them down? The OASYS forum is turning into a gripe forum and it needs to be tempered!
Kevin
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:34 pm
by ozy
SirRoyRogers wrote:She is different to the others . And the difference is the promise that she made to me
that bitch
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:26 pm
by TonyGen
Kevin Nolan wrote:
Now - if this is not clear enough for you then you are franlkly not listening - this is your problem and you'll have to just live with it.
Kevin,
The way I "live with" having been duped into paying more money than was warranted for a supposedly future proof workstation is to complain about it. I am not at all prepared to sit back and say nowt.
So I will complain as I see fit and never purchase any other new Korg equipment until Korg remunerate me in some way (either by upgrades or discounts or whatever).
And you'll just have to live with the complaints I'm afraid.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:03 pm
by Kontrol49
Kevin,
If these topics bore you then why do you add fuel to a fire by putting your view to it as such knowing it will get a defensive reaction,you know your going to go against the grain of peoples views there are many people who can't accept or absorb this large financial outlay irrespective of it now being obsolete and bought into based on Korgs promises which however you see it,was certainly not executed in the correct manner certainly with the future of it.There silence to its heritage recently with the Kronos says its all.
There are many of us who have long got used to the idea of it being discontinued I have no grudge with Korg but does that mean others have no right to feel aggrieved or deflated,especially when Korg have given no formal statement from the Top other than a few words from various Korg USA employees.
Simply ignoring it in favour of Kronos it has only shown there arrogance towards Oasys buyers regardless of them discontinuing it a long time before prior to marketing the kronos.
I'm sure even you can relate as an Oasys owner to that even if you see the Kronos as a great development or step forward.
Asking for the forum to be policed based on your own principles and boredom of topics is not having respect for others views and opinions.
I respect your points but expecting people to be silenced based on how you feel is selfish especially if you want others to respect and read your views or topics with the same amount of enthusiasm.
You may have moved on from this debate but there others who haven't,so have every right to feel let down and whilst there is still a forum dedicated to the topics of the Oasys your not going to stop this thread coming up its part of the legacy of how it was marketed and developed.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:10 pm
by Akos Janca
I think we can all agree on one thing: this situation is not solved properly. Instead of repeating myself I found it a good idea to simply complete my sig to display my opinion without wasting space and directly annoying people.

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:35 pm
by lbartram
Hi folks:
I agree with Kevin.
To add my two cents, I make one observation and ask one simple question to the aggrieved:
My OASYS still works wonderfully. Did yours stop working when the Kronos was announced?
Kevin Nolan wrote:Colleagues,
We have debated this over and over and over. OASYS is finished several years! It's a done deal! Korg were not even silent on it - Jerry has a sticky post, on this forum, explaining that OASYS development ceased in 2008. He and Dan have explained over and over how regretable it was but the realities of business forced the decision...
Kevin.