New OASYS sound bank in works - Ananation

UCanDream · Post by **UCanDream** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:54 pm

vEddY wrote:Come on guys... could we please stick to the topic at hand? Did anyone try the PCG?

Hey vEddy.

Dude, I was thrilled to see someone throw down some time and effort with regards to user support for the O. How cool! I just downloaded your .PCG file and will get to installing it today. And in terms of what to charge...we all know how incredibly task and time intensive sound programming is. Especially on an instrument such as this. A big kudos and congrats from me. And when you get your sound set finished I am a guaranteed customer. Your suggested price seems very on par to me. It's too bad that so much work doesn't actually pay better. In this kind of engineering your only real financial payback or return is by sheer volume in sales. I hope you get that.

It's crazy how for aff topic things can get. It looks like some people will deride the great intent of others just to continually tout and show off what fantastic feuding skills and articulate jabbing they are capable of. Maybe Sharp should dedicate a section on KF just for fights! LOL.....ridiculous.

Buddy, keep up the great effort. I will report back once I have taken a listen. I just can't commend you enough for your contribution here.

Peace.
UCanDream aka David

Hedegaard · Post by **Hedegaard** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:37 pm

You mean this won't be for free?

vEddY · Post by **vEddY** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:37 pm

UCanDream wrote: It's crazy how for aff topic things can get. It looks like some people will deride the great intent of others just to continually tout and show off what fantastic feuding skills and articulate jabbing they are capable of. Maybe Sharp should dedicate a section on KF just for fights! LOL.....ridiculous.
Buddy, keep up the great effort. I will report back once I have taken a listen. I just can't commend you enough for your contribution here.
Peace.
UCanDream aka David

Hey man, thanks

I will try to do this to the best of my abilities

I really am going all-in with these sound libraries and ignoring all of the off-topic nonsense

I prefer a focused context, can't help it, just don't have the time to do everything.

Sorry for not doing mp3s guys, overwhelmed with work. Working on that, and the other sound lib

vEddY · Post by **vEddY** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:39 pm

Hedegaard wrote:You mean this won't be for free?

Nope. I really hate the marketing b$$ that companies throw at me on an hourly basis, but here's one fact. It will take me hundreds of man-hours to do these libraries so it's kind of fair to charge them somehow

But it won't be exactly expensive, either

UCanDream · Post by **UCanDream** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:06 pm

Hedegaard wrote:You mean this won't be for free?

I think Hedegaard was kidding. In fact, I am sure he was kidding. He is too old to be that stupid. Hedegaard, please confirm that you are not THAT mentally incapacitated...? I feel sure that you would not spend hundreds of programming hours on anything for free. Maybe you would....I dunno. It just seems unlikely. Sorry if I'm wrong...

Cheers

UCanDream · Post by **UCanDream** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:24 pm

LOL...

...okay, I gotta let you off the hook. I'm totally messin wif ya!

Hedegaard · Post by **Hedegaard** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:30 am

korg gave us Oasys users extra sounds & "stuff" for free, so why can't normal Oasys users do the same, because its out of love & passion?

Yes, UCanDream, I was more or less kidding, I know that to do this amount of work, some form of compensation is in order.

BUT, I don't approve of pricing that is equal to KARO prices!!
(For twiddling a few knobs and saving programs?!?!?)

UCanDream · Post by **UCanDream** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:44 am

Hedegaard wrote:korg gave us Oasys users extra sounds & "stuff" for free, so why can't normal Oasys users do the same, because its out of love & passion?

Yes, UCanDream, I was more or less kidding, I know that to do this amount of work, some form of compensation is in order.

BUT, I don't approve of pricing that is equal to KARO prices!!
(For twiddling a few knobs and saving programs?!?!?)

Hi Hedegaard.

It's all good buddy. I was merely acknowledging to vEDDY that his work was of value. Even if he gave it away to us it is still of value. And I wasn't trying to give my (or our) money away. I like free stuff, too. I was appreciating both sides of this particular coin because I have embarked on my own programming and I find it to be way more work than I ever feel it pays off for. Maybe I just suck at programming. In any case, your point is well made and taken.

Cheers.
UCanDream

UCanDream · Post by **UCanDream** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:47 am

To vEDDY.

Nice work so far man! Lots of variety in your sound set. I am definitely liking what I hear. Hope you keep it. Please let us know when it is ready for us.

Regards.
UCanDream

cello · Post by **cello** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:24 pm

Hedegaard wrote:korg gave us Oasys users extra sounds & "stuff" for free, so why can't normal Oasys users do the same, because its out of love & passion?

Yes, UCanDream, I was more or less kidding, I know that to do this amount of work, some form of compensation is in order.

BUT, I don't approve of pricing that is equal to KARO prices!!
(For twiddling a few knobs and saving programs?!?!?)

I can see why you say that about karo pricing - but seriously they've done much more than twiddle and save! Their Symphonic Library is expensive yes, but worth it because they sampled an orchestra, then all the sections then all effects (pizz, legato, tremolo, etc), then individual instruments, then different combinations, all of the above with different dynamics as well - and the sounds are glorious!

Don't you agree that's a good bit more than twiddle and save?

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:53 pm

Now I'm not sure Hedegaard is joking or not.

Korg gave us the extra stuff for free because...
1) OR it was already planned and calculated in O's price,
2) OR it was not planned but they wanted to compensated O users after the abrupt discontinuation

vEddY's case is totally different. He asked us first. Then, he is working now. Finally, we still don't have to buy his sounds if we don't want to.

Who doesn't want to pay for it should ask vEddY and offer something else in return (own sounds for example).

vEddY · Post by **vEddY** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:05 pm

cello wrote:
Hedegaard wrote:korg gave us Oasys users extra sounds & "stuff" for free, so why can't normal Oasys users do the same, because its out of love & passion?

Yes, UCanDream, I was more or less kidding, I know that to do this amount of work, some form of compensation is in order.

BUT, I don't approve of pricing that is equal to KARO prices!!
(For twiddling a few knobs and saving programs?!?!?)
I can see why you say that about karo pricing - but seriously they've done much more than twiddle and save! Their Symphonic Library is expensive yes, but worth it because they sampled an orchestra, then all the sections then all effects (pizz, legato, tremolo, etc), then individual instruments, then different combinations, all of the above with different dynamics as well - and the sounds are glorious!

Don't you agree that's a good bit more than twiddle and save?

Without going into the "religious" discussion about twiddling with pads and knobs (which isn't what I'm doing here), and Karo's pricing (which I find to be completely 'normal' in terms of work involved with investment and samples', I never said it's gonna be comparable pricing. It will be a lot cheaper. And that's comparing apples to oranges on my part, I know.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:24 pm

I see no problem at all in paying for well done patches, if you find stuff you can use, and thus don't have to invest the programming time and effort for that yourself.

Hedegaard · Post by **Hedegaard** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:01 pm

Akos Janca wrote:Now I'm not sure Hedegaard is joking or not.

Korg gave us the extra stuff for free because...
1) OR it was already planned and calculated in O's price,
2) OR it was not planned but they wanted to compensated O users after the abrupt discontinuation

vEddY's case is totally different. He asked us first. Then, he is working now. Finally, we still don't have to buy his sounds if we don't want to.

Who doesn't want to pay for it should ask vEddY and offer something else in return (own sounds for example).

1) I don't think that future plans of that calibre are planned as much
2) No, I think this is unlikely

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:33 am

Hedegaard wrote:
Akos Janca wrote:Now I'm not sure Hedegaard is joking or not.

Korg gave us the extra stuff for free because...
1) OR it was already planned and calculated in O's price,
2) OR it was not planned but they wanted to compensated O users after the abrupt discontinuation
1) I don't think that future plans of that calibre are planned as much
2) No, I think this is unlikely

(Then why Korg gave us the free stuff?) Regardless of this vEddY has the right to charge a price.