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I must admit, that at first I noticed the sample import features of the Kronos as quite limited, regarding both Akai-S-1000-Samples and Soundfonts as not up to date formats.

Now I found out two things:
a) the (originally EMU, later Creative) Soundfont format has continually been developed since 1994, and even the advanced soundfont-2 format has been further updated 2006 to include 24bit sampling. It's much more than just stone old soundblaster technology.

b) modern conversion tools (I use the unexpensive, but very well working "Extreme Sample Converter 3" software) allow saving to soundfont-2 format.

So this weekend I took a very large, single sampled, 8-layer Kontakt 2 library (unprotected nkl-fomat) and converted the whole Kontakt-instrument into a nearly 600Mb first class soundfont-instrument with the help of Extreme Sample Converter within minutes. The result was stunning (at least to me): the soundfont worked just like the orignial Kontakt-instrument: it sounded and could be played equally well.

Extreme Sample Converter 3 also allows resampling of VSTis and saving as soundfonts: imagine the simple import of whole VSTi patches into the Kronos!

Now my question to Dan or Rich:
Can you name which version exactly of the Soundfonts format the Kronos will import? I'm very curious, because I imagine how fast and easy the use of sampled instruments with the Kronos could possibly be, whenever you want or need one besides the vast onboard possibilities.

Yep, Extreme Sample converter is amazing, but there is a down side to all this.

“File Sizes”

KORG very likely know this too and with the Kronos already streaming KORG's own samples, I'd bet money on it that in the future it will be streaming end user samples too. It's a must at this point.

Regards
Sharp.

I guess there will be two steps:

1. allowing updating RAM to 4Gb. This is probably not too hard to program and should either already be available with release in April/May or follow soon in autumn. Dan, you are allowed to smile about future user expectations.

2. allow disk streaming. This looks less trivial to me and would require a Korg specific smaple editor for import/converson into their EXi format (which they must have for internal use already, but perhaps not in a user-friendly form).

I guess the latter, IF it comes, will take some more time.


For the moment my main question stays:
which soundfont-version does the Kronos import?
Any answer from Korg staff members appreciated.

I have wondered and wait for increasing discussion....

This seems to be a real step here this time... ? ? more than the Oasys / ?

Regards, Johnny, John, ellll

jimknopf wrote: For the moment my main question stays:
which soundfont-version does the Kronos import?
Any answer from Korg staff members appreciated.

SoundFont 2.0

Regards
Sharp.

Sharp wrote:

jimknopf wrote: For the moment my main question stays:
which soundfont-version does the Kronos import?
Any answer from Korg staff members appreciated.

SoundFont 2.0

Regards
Sharp.

same as m3? i assume. (post 299 for me, one more to the big 3-0-0!!!! LOL)

apex wrote:post 299 for me, one more to the big 3-0-0!!!! LOL

Don't do it!

Well, 2.01 is pretty much standard since many years, and 2.04 adds 24bit sampling. But 2.0 will do ok.

So here we go.
Thanks for the answer, Sharp!

jimknopf wrote:Well, 2.01 is pretty much standard since many years, and 2.04 adds 24bit sampling. But 2.0 will do ok.

So here we go.
Thanks for the answer, Sharp!

having some trouble doing this JIM. I'm working with a few soundfont files that I already have... when I load them into the Kronos I'm not getting any sound. I downloaded one from the internet and loaded it into the Kronos and it worked just fine.

any suggestions?

Hard to say from here what causes your trouble.

But here are some traps I met:
- be sure you have a soundfont with a single sound, not a complete bank.
- even soundfonts only delivering one instrument sometimes include several patches and are in fact a soundbank and not a single sound
- sometimes the way stereo/multi-velocity samples are named within soundfonts may cause trouble
- in some cases (like trying to load whole EMU libraries with many small sounds or the like) you run into indexing problems on the Kronos (this will be much better with OS 1.5 and 4x the number of present index limits).

In one word: I am sorry I can't offer a general solution and struggle myself with certain soundfonts at times.

Some users found Awave useful as tool in this context.

Hi jimknopf,

Can I ask you to clear a few things up?

What version of Kontakt are you using?

I found that nki's exported from v3 crash, whilst v4 are stable.

When you export the SF2, is it as an Instrument or Bank?

Would you have a screenshot of the instrument as it is in Kontakt, in the wave mapping area?

Thnks.