Assigning Sounds on the MIDI Sequencer

[BARRY CRAIG]

Hi: Another newbie question. My problem is this--as you know, if you open up the O sequencer, all 16 channels are defaulted to the A00 piano sound. So, I assign an internal or user program, or copy over from a combi. All well and good. However, if I navigate to another page, when I return to the MIDI mixer page, sounds I put there before have defaulted back to A00. Is there a "confirm/save" operation I need to do after I select program sounds or combi's?

Also, if I set the track assignment (INT,EXT,EXT2) which on another page, and go back to the MIDI mixer page, that info isn't stored/saved either.
Very frustrating.

In working with previous Korg workstations, it was easy to assign external tone modules, and if you selected EXT, it stayed that way.

Thanks for any light anyone can shed on this.

[nitecrawler]

Sounds like something is wrong with your O. That does not occur on mine; going to program or combi mode nor changing pages within the sequencer section.

[BARRY CRAIG]

It's probably a user error at this early stage. Time to go back to the manuals...

Thanks.

[Kontrol49]

Its because when you reload the song a reset message will return it to the Deafult patches,its kind of like a GM reset.

A good practice is either to save your song as a template song on the hard drive once you've selected the desired patches,or insert program changes at the start of the song,so that when it plays the song the patches you require will be called up(this should be a normal part of midi track building and song organisation and how Pro Sequences are,make it as much a routine to do this as recording the Midi data,it will save you hours of frustration)

I usually have a template song with the header file which has all the required CC and midi data loaded at the first couple of measures of a song for every track,then when I want to start a new song,i simply load this deafult song and then alter the program change values inside the track as per song,then save the file once I've sequenced the parts(although I don't sequence on the Oasys,using this method is a lifesaver.)get into the habit of doing this and your workflow is so much easier.

Just download a professionally sequenced GM/XG/GS compatible midi file and you'll see how its organised with a few blank measures at the start with a one bar or so start up header,and which CC and various midi data is used as per track,work to this rule of thumb and you'll become a better programmer and have less annoying moments due to lack of housekeeping,the 16 tracks of the Oasys should be easy enough to get into the habit of good housekeeping with your sequences,I use several sequences which have up to 128 midi tracks so keeping tabs on everything in large sequencers can become hectic if you don't have some kind of organisation.

Taking a little time to make your own song template header that you can load on each new song is more productive than having to reselect the patches on a reset or even worse forgetting which patches you have used because the reset changed it to something else and you can't recall the patch used before the reset,once youve loaded that template,all you need to do is alter the program change value in the track edit page,so if it does reset you know it'll be the correct patch when you hit play again

or you could rather than start with a song,use a combi and write it to memory with your patches you require and then copy over to the song when you want to record midi data,that way if the song resets before youve had time to insert program changes or save the data,you simply just recall the patch selections from the combi you made or realod the combi into the song mode

[X-Trade]

Is it possible that you have another device sending a reset to the OASYS when the song is selected?

That kind of data should be saved until you power off at least.

[BARRY CRAIG]

Thank you all for your suggestions, especially Extreme 49 who went into detail about setting up default templates.

I'm not quite there. I'm still hoping there's a way to "lock down" the sounds/settings (INT, EXT) I've imported before navigating elsewhere in search of what else the piece requires. Would just going into "record", let the seq save that info, and then stop do it?

I'm also curious about the "auto-record" function in which you can immediately go to seq mode and lay something down fast in the heat of the moment, so to speak.

Many thanks to Mike Conway for sending me his DVD--it's mind blowing...

Cheers,
Barry

[SCHWEATS]

Would just going into "record", let the seq save that info, and then stop do it?

NO… follow Extreme49's instruct

If you put the machine in Seq mode, pull down page menu and select
Copy from Combi, select the combi w/FX and turn on Multi-record standby , then hit 'Record' and play something/anything and stop.
It does NOT record any Patch changes or CC data.

This is why I never you use the Oasys' internal sequencer , though I'm sure someone, somewhere, is amazingly fast with it.

follow Extreme49's instruct

Schweats

[TonyGen]

Hi: Another newbie question. My problem is this--as you know, if you open up the O sequencer, all 16 channels are defaulted to the A00 piano sound. So, I assign an internal or user program, or copy over from a combi. All well and good. However, if I navigate to another page, when I return to the MIDI mixer page, sounds I put there before have defaulted back to A00. Is there a "confirm/save" operation I need to do after I select program sounds or combi's?

Also, if I set the track assignment (INT,EXT,EXT2) which on another page, and go back to the MIDI mixer page, that info isn't stored/saved either.
Very frustrating.

In working with previous Korg workstations, it was easy to assign external tone modules, and if you selected EXT, it stayed that way.

Thanks for any light anyone can shed on this.

In sequence mode my Oasys does all the things you say yours doesn't (unless I am misunderstanding you). I have never needed to do anything special, just choose S001:NEWSONG and any changes I make are still there if I navigate somewhere else and then come back - even to another sequence (song) or combi or program.

Any program/cc/slider/sustain pedal etc. changes ARE recorded during sequence recordings (providing I want them to be). So not sure why you are having the problem you describe. And INT/EXT are always as I leave them without having to save.

Programs/Combis however do have to be saved before navigating away to another page - I learnt that the hard way a few times. They also have to be saved as PCG or ALL before turning Oasys off - I've come a cropper with that one too.

The only time I have to save songs via SEQ (or ALL) is before I turn Oasys off or load another page of sequences.

I have had problems with sequencing in the past (I have probably sequenced over 100 songs, mainly for live use) but never come across the problems you describe.

As much as I whinge about the Oasys sequencer (no copy/drag, no piano roll, not enough tracks etc.) I tend to use it quite a lot because it is great for live use.

Have you contacted Korg Support via phone and asked them to talk you through what you are doing? Sounds like you (or me) are misunderstanding something here.

Good luck.

[Lou]

Thank you all for your suggestions, especially
I'm not quite there. I'm still hoping there's a way to "lock down" the sounds/settings (INT, EXT) I've imported before navigating elsewhere in search of what else the piece requires. Would just going into "record", let the seq save that info, and then stop do it?

Cheers,
Barry

I don't have a Korg in front of me, but the next time your patches change settings, try hitting the Compare key and then do a Save All, name it and
reload. Your patch selection should then load as saved and remain.

Also, you haven't mentioned if you have a daw opened up or anything else that may be sending midi messages to the keyboard..?