Using faders

Rosen Sound · Post by **Rosen Sound** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:39 am

Man im loving this Kronos!

I saw in the videos that he could select the cutoff knob of say polysix and assign a fader to it.

I would like to do this!

I cannot find it in the manual if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:44 am

robbinhood wrote:Man im loving this Kronos!

I saw in the videos that he could select the cutoff knob of say polysix and assign a fader to it.

I would like to do this!

I cannot find it in the manual if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

I may be misunderstanding your question, but if you make sure the Control Surface Mode is RT/KARMA, then if you are in program mode, doesn't the first knob control filter cutoff for the program?

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:01 am

robbinhood wrote:Man im loving this Kronos!

I saw in the videos that he could select the cutoff knob of say polysix and assign a fader to it.

I would like to do this!

I cannot find it in the manual if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

That's something you can do with Tone Adjust.

Rosen Sound · Post by **Rosen Sound** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:03 am

well when i adjust it can i save it like that permanently? What i want to do is adjust my effects while lowering and raising cutoff and reso. lemme know if this is possible nd thanks for the replys so far

cynkh · Post by **cynkh** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:37 pm

It's possible to use AMS to re-assign any of the knobs/faders' CC values and then patch it to the appropriate parameter in the synth engine of your choice.
I recommend getting to the parameter page of your engine and pressing the Help button while the AMS option is showing on your screen- I've found this to be invaluable.
I'll have another look at this thread when I'm in front of my Kronos again and get you some more detailed information if the question hasn't already been addressed by that point.

Cheers!

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:48 pm

I'm at my Kronos now, and I'd still like to mention that, by default, the first knob is assigned to filter cutoff already. For example, try Program U-E001 Unison Stab Saw (a polysix program). Knob two is already attached to resonance. And, when you adjust them, and save the program, those adjustments are applied to the program. Try it! (you can always reload the original from the Preload folder on your hard drive).

It's important to note that using the Real-Time Knobs to adjust the sound *will be* applied to a program when you save it - but in combi mode, it works differently. The positions of the knobs (or their effects) will not be saved when you store a combi.

Rosen Sound · Post by **Rosen Sound** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:55 pm

StephenKay wrote:I'm at my Kronos now, and I'd still like to mention that, by default, the first knob is assigned to filter cutoff already. For example, try Program U-E001 Unison Stab Saw (a polysix program). Knob two is already attached to resonance. And, when you adjust them, and save the program, those adjustments are applied to the program. Try it! (you can always reload the original from the Preload folder on your hard drive).

It's important to note that using the Real-Time Knobs to adjust the sound *will be* applied to a program when you save it - but in combi mode, it works differently. The positions of the knobs (or their effects) will not be saved when you store a combi.

Thanks so much for your reply Stephen, I've been a long time KARMA fan since the karma mw and it was a real drive for me to get the kronos!

I took your earlier advice and thankfully it worked! the knobs even has one specifically for envelope depth and all of that and i was very very happy. I am still hoping theres a way to use the faders though. If there is please let me know, Im currently downloading this huge manual(s). I don't know which one would have it. Operations of parameter guide.

Also I remember when the M3 came out, korg did this thing where say you had 1 string sound with fast attack, then the same one with a longer attack, you could save it to one program slot as a variation. Can kronos do this? Also even though this isnt the right thread, im wondering if say in setlist mode I can use tone adjust without changing my custom programs. for example I have my harpsichord, and Im wondering if i can transpose it down an octave without affecting the actually program and it only being like that in set list and in that particular slot. Also I'm having issues finding the PADS in setlist mode.. which should really be there!

Ive NEVER owned something this powerful that has stumped me this hard! that is a good thing! thanks korg for this beast on an instrument!

Rosen Sound · Post by **Rosen Sound** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:58 pm

cynkh wrote:It's possible to use AMS to re-assign any of the knobs/faders' CC values and then patch it to the appropriate parameter in the synth engine of your choice.
I recommend getting to the parameter page of your engine and pressing the Help button while the AMS option is showing on your screen- I've found this to be invaluable.
I'll have another look at this thread when I'm in front of my Kronos again and get you some more detailed information if the question hasn't already been addressed by that point.

Cheers!

That sounds like it would work, but what im wondering is will is SAVE when i adjust it? I guess i should just fire up the kronos and try!

Thanks for the reply man its been helpful

cynkh · Post by **cynkh** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:25 am

Sorry I misunderstood the question. Good thing we have some serious experts roaming these halls

! (It's always a little different trying to cram a forum session in while on a quick break at work).
Good luck and kick out the jams!

Cheers!

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:04 am

robbinhood wrote:I am still hoping theres a way to use the faders though. If there is please let me know, Im currently downloading this huge manual(s). I don't know which one would have it. Operations of parameter guide.

Well, as Dan said, you could do this on the Tone Adjust page. Set the Control surface Mode to Tone adjust, go to the Control surface Tone adjust page, you could select Filter Cutoff from the list of params and assign it to a slider, same thing with resonance, etc. - But it's kind of a lot of work when the knobs are already set up that way... But it's another way to edit a lot of params that aren't assigned to the knobs....

Also I remember when the M3 came out, korg did this thing where say you had 1 string sound with fast attack, then the same one with a longer attack, you could save it to one program slot as a variation. Can kronos do this?/quote]
I'm not getting this question exactly...

Also even though this isnt the right thread, im wondering if say in setlist mode I can use tone adjust without changing my custom programs. for example I have my harpsichord, and Im wondering if i can transpose it down an octave without affecting the actually program and it only being like that in set list and in that particular slot.

Absolutely. That's what the Control surface Tone Adjust mode/page is for.

Also I'm having issues finding the PADS in setlist mode.. which should really be there!

There really isn't a Pads Page per se in Set List Mode. All that you can do, to use the onscreen pads, is to select the program or combi in the Set List, and then use the Menu Command button to "Edit Program" or "Edit Combi", which takes you directly to that program or combi, and then you can select the Pads page. But note that you can still use an external pads device while in the Set List mode to trigger the pads without leaving the Set List. Hope that helps.

jg:: · Post by **jg::** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:46 am

I think that you might find the knobs easy to get used to, as Stephen suggested. However, using Tone Adjust also has the advantage that the assignments can automatically be transferred with the Program when you use it in Combi or Song mode.

jg::

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