Hey folks,
I would appreciate any input or guidance for a new bee to this set up configuration. If any subject matter expert from Korg for the Oasys can chime in that would be greatly appreciated. In a nutshell I have had a setup that has been primarily set up for performance but I am looking to convert my existing setup to a "mixerless" environment which is common. I am new to this to I am working with the equipment listed so I am not looking to necessarily buy anything more at this time and basically leverage the supported connectivity I have. Can this setup work as described based on the connectivity matrix described below and the the flow through the Oasys and the E-MU interface described. I am looking for detailed thought rather than commentary. Please advise.
Here is my current scenario
Equipment:
Samson MDR10 (10-channel mixer)
Digitech Vocalist Live Pro
Lexicon MX400 (1U effect rack)
Oasys 88
DW-8000
Kawai SX-210
Current connectivity (standard) /mixer
Oasys -> mixer (2 channels)
DW-8000 -> mixer (2 channels)
Kawai SX-210 -> mixer (2 channels)
Digitech Vocalist Live Pro -> mixer (2 channels)
Lexixon MX400 -> mixer effect loop A
Desired connectivity (mixerless)
Oasys -> 8 ch ADAT {use channel 1/2} -> E-MU 1212m PCI -> PC w/ Patch DSP & Cakewalk Sonar LE
DW-8000 > Oasys Line level input 1/2 -> Oasys 8 ch ADAT {use channel 3/4}-> E-MU 1212m PCI -> PC w/ Patch DSP & Cakewalk Sonar LE
Kawai SX-210 > Oasys Line level input 3/4 -> Oasys 8 ch ADAT {use channel 5/6}-> E-MU 1212m PCI -> PC w/ Patch DSP & Cakewalk Sonar LE
Digitech Vocalist Live Pro (SPDIF OUT) -> Oasys (SPDIF IN) -> 8 ch ADAT {use channel 7/8} -> E-MU 1212m PCI -> PC w/ Patch DSP & Cakewalk Sonar LE
Lexicon MX400 ( SPDIF OUT coax) -> E-MU 1212m PCI -> PC w/ Patch DSP & Cakewalk Sonar LE -> Lexicon MX400 ( SPDIF IN coax) { This is to provide an optical path for an external effects rack.}
E-MU 1212m PCI (Audio out)-> Warfdale active speakers
Will this work without having the need to buy a 1616m Microdock to connect via EDI connector to 1212m?
Please advise. Much thanks.
Nu bee going from "mixer" to "mixerless"
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Mike Conway
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I don't have the ADAT card in my OASYS, but these connections might be possible. How come you don't hook each option up, one at a time and see if it works?
Your first step would be to go to GLOBAL-BASIC, AUDIO tab. On the mixer, you will see Inputs 1, 2, 3, 4, S/P DIF (Left and Right).
On the first line (top of screen) it says BUS SELECT. This is where each of those signals is sent. I have all the analogue outs, L/R and IFX 1-12 available. What you need to do is press the arrow on BUS SELECT. Try it under S/P DIF L. Do the EXB ADAT tracks show up? If so, I would say this is possible.
What you need to do is assign all your Inputs to the BUS SELECT destinations that you want:
Input 1 to ADAT 3
Input 2 to ADAT 4
Input 3 to ADAT 5
Input 4 to ADAT 6
S/P DIF L to ADAT 7
S/P DIF R to ADAT 8
The part I'm not sure about is OASYS-> 8 ch ADAT {use channel 1/2}..... Again, I don't have ADAT anything. When I mix with the OASYS, I sum everything out to the L/R outputs.
When you finish these routings in GLOBAL, you will want to save a program file (PCG) which saves Global settings. Perhaps name it "MIXER" so you can load it up, whenever you like.
Whether in Program, Combi or Song modes, you can double check by pressing the AUDIO IN/SAMPLING tab. Your mixer should be greyed out and the check box indicates, USE GLOBAL SETTING. This keeps those routings consistent, no matter what mode you are in. As long as you are in AUDIO mode (as opposed to Timbre/Track, External, KARMA or Tone Adjust), you should be able to use your panel faders - or at least I can with analogue connections, but try it.
Your first step would be to go to GLOBAL-BASIC, AUDIO tab. On the mixer, you will see Inputs 1, 2, 3, 4, S/P DIF (Left and Right).
On the first line (top of screen) it says BUS SELECT. This is where each of those signals is sent. I have all the analogue outs, L/R and IFX 1-12 available. What you need to do is press the arrow on BUS SELECT. Try it under S/P DIF L. Do the EXB ADAT tracks show up? If so, I would say this is possible.
What you need to do is assign all your Inputs to the BUS SELECT destinations that you want:
Input 1 to ADAT 3
Input 2 to ADAT 4
Input 3 to ADAT 5
Input 4 to ADAT 6
S/P DIF L to ADAT 7
S/P DIF R to ADAT 8
The part I'm not sure about is OASYS-> 8 ch ADAT {use channel 1/2}..... Again, I don't have ADAT anything. When I mix with the OASYS, I sum everything out to the L/R outputs.
When you finish these routings in GLOBAL, you will want to save a program file (PCG) which saves Global settings. Perhaps name it "MIXER" so you can load it up, whenever you like.
Whether in Program, Combi or Song modes, you can double check by pressing the AUDIO IN/SAMPLING tab. Your mixer should be greyed out and the check box indicates, USE GLOBAL SETTING. This keeps those routings consistent, no matter what mode you are in. As long as you are in AUDIO mode (as opposed to Timbre/Track, External, KARMA or Tone Adjust), you should be able to use your panel faders - or at least I can with analogue connections, but try it.
Hi Mike,
Listen thanks for your advice I will actually try this tomorrow and see if the routings you proposed pan out. I know that the summing of L/R to ADAT 1/2 works perfectly since I route these into my same card so I can collaborate online and in realtime with other musician in the virtual studio you may have heard of called NINJAM (http://www.cockos.com/ninjam/). I also downloaded the server so i can occasionally host my own jam or collaboration sessions. The ADAT output really works out for me since it gives me the ability to have no noise or hum concern as well as augmenting my tracks within NINJAM once I want to go beyond the traditional 1/2 (L/R). Really cool application as you sometime end up finding your self jamming with folks on the other side of the globe and not losing a beat.
Listen thanks for your advice I will actually try this tomorrow and see if the routings you proposed pan out. I know that the summing of L/R to ADAT 1/2 works perfectly since I route these into my same card so I can collaborate online and in realtime with other musician in the virtual studio you may have heard of called NINJAM (http://www.cockos.com/ninjam/). I also downloaded the server so i can occasionally host my own jam or collaboration sessions. The ADAT output really works out for me since it gives me the ability to have no noise or hum concern as well as augmenting my tracks within NINJAM once I want to go beyond the traditional 1/2 (L/R). Really cool application as you sometime end up finding your self jamming with folks on the other side of the globe and not losing a beat.
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Mike,
Just wanted to follow-up. Really cool results. Believe or not I really never went and delved into the 8 channel ADAT insterface on the OASYS before but it really seems to make connectivity quite nice and compact. The routing you layed out was achievable and basically all my analog inputs compacted into the ADAT channels . I also managed to take the Digitech vocalist which has a coax optical out and ran it into a coax to toslink optical converter and plugged it into the OASYS S/PDIF input. Once I routed that last input to ADAT (7 and
respectively the PC PC processed my input as expected. I am futsing along with some of the onboard effects as I did not have the coax optical wires to patch through my effects through my S/PDIF on the EMU card itself on the PC. Still testing by man the OASYS does this beautifully. Especially since I can now add the OASYS onboard effects to my analog synths. Nice!!!!
Thanks.
Just wanted to follow-up. Really cool results. Believe or not I really never went and delved into the 8 channel ADAT insterface on the OASYS before but it really seems to make connectivity quite nice and compact. The routing you layed out was achievable and basically all my analog inputs compacted into the ADAT channels . I also managed to take the Digitech vocalist which has a coax optical out and ran it into a coax to toslink optical converter and plugged it into the OASYS S/PDIF input. Once I routed that last input to ADAT (7 and
respectively the PC PC processed my input as expected. I am futsing along with some of the onboard effects as I did not have the coax optical wires to patch through my effects through my S/PDIF on the EMU card itself on the PC. Still testing by man the OASYS does this beautifully. Especially since I can now add the OASYS onboard effects to my analog synths. Nice!!!!Thanks.
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