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Switching between sounds fast at a show?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:09 am
by autoxlife
I'm sorry if this has already been answered but this is my first post and I can not find it anywhere. I have had my triton for a couple years and just can not figure this out! So say i'm at band practice...we're playing a song and all of a sudden we switch from verse to chorus. It was a piano or pad or whatever in the verse...but when we get to the chorus I have to play strings. What I have to do is touch the strings category..scroll through all of the string samples until I find the right one..and click on it. And by that time i'm already like 2 bars late coming in. Can someone please give me a STEP BY STEP DETAILED instructions on how I can create my own layered patches or use the stock sounds...save them so I can see all of them in a program bank and just hit it? no searching and coming in late bull crap haha. I am begging you guys. This is driving me nuts. i also have a korg Karma and would love to know how to do it on there also since it does not have a touch screen. Thanks guys I appreciate it so much! -Dustin

Switching sounds fast

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:56 am
by jeremykeys
I'm not sure if this will work for you but on my Triton Pro -X I just copy sounds from which-ever Program I want into bank E. After my vocoder and sampling slots. For example. I have my stereo piano, then strings, then organ, all on the same page. Go to bank E and cursor down until you see the init spaces. Then go to whatever you want your first sound to be, press rec and the screen will ask you where you want to move it to. you'll still have the sound in the original space but now it's also in bank E which will be your live page. Hope that helps. If you have any questions I'll try and do more. Good Luck!

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:09 am
by BruceL
in E BANK (E is the user program bank) save all the sounds you will use for the song in incremental order.
to quickly change sounds you simply press the "inc button" (increase or increment button is next to the slider)
if you prefer a handsfree approach connect a footswitch behind the triton the footswitch will change from one
sound to the next eachtime you step on it...to assign the footswitch go to [global mode] press the [menu]
button, then on the viewscreen select "controller"......

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:29 am
by X-Trade
The way I work with this is quite in depth...

Basically what you can do is use an additional MIDI controller. When you're working in Combi mode, you can assign different timbres to different MIDI channels. So I would often use splits too so that for example I had a piano for the verse across the whole keyboard, then on the additional keyboard I might have a pad across the bottom half and a lead sound in the top two octaves.

Create a different combi for each song. The trick here is actually avoiding changing between combis as much as possible during the song by having this detailed setup all ready to go. You can then organise the combis in the order of your setlist if you like.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:40 pm
by autoxlife
okay i will try to do this in bank E and get back to you. Were you saying that you use bank E as the user bank for both the TRITON and the KARMA? Also...do i need to be in program or combi mode? And as for the footswitch...I have a sustain pedal hooked up already for playing piano. What piano sound do you guys think sounds the most realistic as possible on these boards?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:40 pm
by autoxlife
X-Trade wrote:The way I work with this is quite in depth...

Basically what you can do is use an additional MIDI controller. When you're working in Combi mode, you can assign different timbres to different MIDI channels. So I would often use splits too so that for example I had a piano for the verse across the whole keyboard, then on the additional keyboard I might have a pad across the bottom half and a lead sound in the top two octaves.

Create a different combi for each song. The trick here is actually avoiding changing between combis as much as possible during the song by having this detailed setup all ready to go. You can then organise the combis in the order of your setlist if you like.

Could you explain how you split the keys? I've also been wondering how to do this forever.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:48 pm
by X-Trade
It's really simple...

In a Combi, each timbre has a 'Key Zone', which basically means the range of keys that it responds to. So to set your lower sound, highlight the 'Top' parameter, hold down Enter and press a key.
Then for your 'upper' timbre do the same for the 'Bottom' parameter.

This should be in the KeyZ edit page.

Re: Switching sounds fast

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:54 am
by autoxlife
jeremykeys wrote:I'm not sure if this will work for you but on my Triton Pro -X I just copy sounds from which-ever Program I want into bank E. After my vocoder and sampling slots. For example. I have my stereo piano, then strings, then organ, all on the same page. Go to bank E and cursor down until you see the init spaces. Then go to whatever you want your first sound to be, press rec and the screen will ask you where you want to move it to. you'll still have the sound in the original space but now it's also in bank E which will be your live page. Hope that helps. If you have any questions I'll try and do more. Good Luck!
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Okay, so I did this. I went to the init spaces and then went to my sounds to put it in. It just goes to a different sound bank to find sounds. Like for instance. I go to bank E, find init 001, then I try to pick a sound so i go up to category button, Oh, the verse has "Universal Choir", it's a pad in bank A I think, so I hit it and it says copy, so i say yes, are you sure, i say yes, and it says writing to disk. then NOTHING changes, instead of it being choir, it is still the F****** "Init-001" patch. I'm so frustrated.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:32 pm
by billbaker
Autoxlife,

Find the patch you want (i.e., A001).

Push save (as before)

Pop-up save menu will show the selected voice and a destination. The destination file will be the same name/number - A001

Change the destination file (Save To) to an "INIT" program or combi slot (i.e., E001 - it will be the second voice/number on that pop-up "save" menu).

Press save + yes "I'm sure".

That should save to the new (copied) voice to E001.

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If you don't change the number it will save over the same spot. This is how you permanently save tweaks, like if you decide you don't like the reverb or EQ on the factory piano. But be careful. That "save" will effect piano in all combis that use that slot/# as a designated voice - if you overwrite the piano with a choir voice then your "Piano & Strings" combi will sound like choir + strings instead of how it should.

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This may seem like a lot of work just to copy a file but it keeps you from overwriting or losing voices accidentally.

BTW: I think that the ability to overwrite ALL the factory voices is one of the best things about the Triton line (and all the Korgs since the original M-series). It's also the feature that can get you into the most trouble... make sure your'e really sure before you press that last "yes".


BB

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:55 pm
by SanderXpander
Also, read the manual at least once. Not the parameter guide, but the manual. I honestly don't mean to sound rude, but if you've had those instruments for a few years and you don't even know how to save sounds, just think of what else you might be missing out on! It sounds like you're using it just as a "preset machine" and that's really a shame for such a comprehensive synth. Don't worry too much about the learning curve - it's steep in the beginning but once you get a little further and start to recognize the logic and terminology, many things will become self explanatory.

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:50 pm
by michelkeijzers
You can use PCG Tools for easy moving patches inside a bank.