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I'd like to create a combination where I can play piano across the entire keyboard, then press SW1 to turn off the piano and play an organ program, then back to piano at some point later in the song. I'd like to do this without moving the volume faders up and down or switching between programs. Could anyone tell me how to do this? Thank you for reading.

What you can do is use an IFX, route the some instrument where you want to control the on/off for to that IFX. As IFX use e.g. a compressor or equalizer, set it in such a way that it will be inaudible (e.g. all levels low or trim low) and make the level dependent on a modulation source, e.g. SW1. I never tried it with a switch but I assume it should work.

If you want the organ to be played, you probably have to use a second IFX to opposite settings and routhe the organ through that IFX.

I'd try doing it at the amp section in a dual program, for example one of the Piano + String patches as a start point.

I'm away from the keyboard now but there is a spot in the amp page where you can insert a modulator, in most cases it is something like velocity that controls the overall program volume -- but if you put in SW-2 with a value of minus (-)100 for OSC 1 (with a starting value of 100) and plus (+)100 for OSC 2 (with a starting value of 0) then you create a case where the OSC 1 voice sounds until you push SW-2 at which point the OSC 2 voice comes up and 1 ducks down.

In this example it's an either/or choice being made with the SW-2, but you could also create an Osc-1/add Osc-2 version that would add in a second sound.

2 things to be careful of tho' - make sure that SW2 doesn't control anything else (like FX modulators), and remember that this program's SW-2 routing will carry forward if you use the patch in a combi.

BB

I think that would work too, but you need to change programs for that (I generally reuse a lot of programs in combis so I try to change not too much).

mk,

No, that's within a single program, at the program level.

You'd have to rewrite (change) a program, but not select new number (change) during the performance.

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If you're taking about not changing the stock sounds (programs), I agree that you shouldn't change sounds already used in combis, but there's a lot of free program spaces on the extreme that aren't entangled in combis.

I wasn't suggesting an overwrite of an existing program as much as a place to start trying to build the dual voice A/B switch program.

The advice about the SW2 being used to control other parameters within a combi still holds true, as it (SW2) can be referenced multiple times in different functions depending on how the combi's FX have been set up -- this is a issue especially when you're editing an existing combi and not starting from scratch.




BB

billbaker wrote:mk,

No, that's within a single program, at the program level.

You'd have to rewrite (change) a program, but not select new number (change) during the performance.

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If you're taking about not changing the stock sounds (programs), I agree that you shouldn't change sounds already used in combis, but there's a lot of free program spaces on the extreme that aren't entangled in combis.

I wasn't suggesting an overwrite of an existing program as much as a place to start trying to build the dual voice A/B switch program.

The advice about the SW2 being used to control other parameters within a combi still holds true, as it (SW2) can be referenced multiple times in different functions depending on how the combi's FX have been set up -- this is a issue especially when you're editing an existing combi and not starting from scratch.




BB

Sounds like a good idea when IFXs run out (which is on an extreme reasonably early with 5 IFXs). Thanks for the info!

I did it the SW1 switch way to turn off one of the FX, I think - I'd need to check.

So basically the SW1 toggles how much of the effect is returned, 0 or 127, off or on for the sound.

Sorry, a bit vague without looking...

HTH,

fallingman wrote:I did it the SW1 switch way to turn off one of the FX, I think - I'd need to check.

So basically the SW1 toggles how much of the effect is returned, 0 or 127, off or on for the sound.

Sorry, a bit vague without looking...

HTH,

Yes the switch sets the amount and the amount of effect is 'coupled' to an effect that has as a parameter to changes the volume.