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Some musical stuff

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:07 pm
by Syntey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyvku6ecDoo

All sounds are from M50.

What do u think about it ?? :)

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:04 pm
by michelkeijzers
I think it's great ... you could maybe have some more variation in the drums but the the rest is beautiful.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:26 am
by StudioF
great job Syntey

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:34 am
by Syntey
Thank you very much. I appreciate it :)

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:48 pm
by xmlguy
Nice music arrangement. The drum track sounds very muffled, like all the high frequencies have been cut. Is that intentional? I hear the same thing in several of your other youtube tracks. Is it perhaps an attempt to make the drums more symphonic? There might be some better ways to mix the rhythm tracks to keep them clean yet put them more in the background of the sound field.

Listen to the following track for comparison, taking note of the crisp sound of the drum kit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV-L7N8lOQQ

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:44 pm
by Syntey
Yes, Drums are intentional. I tried to turn up basses and turn down High frequencies...In other tracks I'm using simple Timpani drums. Thank you for advice :).

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:47 pm
by xmlguy
Rather than just cutting off the highs of the drums, there are a number of other techniques you can try instead.

Symphonic percussion is usually behind the other instruments and in the center of the sound field. The individual percussion elements are also played differently than rock drum kits. For examples, cymbals and timpanis are often muted by the musicians to keep them from ringing out, unlike rock crash/ride cymbals and kickdrums. Kickdrums are usually less resonant and are deadened internally, for a more flat overall sound, while timpanis are more resonant at the start, and then deadened by hand. Symphony cymbals are swiped together and then deadened against the musicians body to cut them off. You can simulate these differences by adjusting the amp envelopes of each instrument individually.

Cutting the highs loses the brightness and clarity of the attack, which is why they sound muffled instead of merely being in the back of the sound field. You can use a compressor/limiter effect to reduce the dynamic range of the percussion, reduce the average level of them all, then add a bit more reverb to make them sound farther back in the sound field. Then you can pan the strings, woodwinds, and brass according to the classic symphonic arrangement, from left to right.

Here's an article from sound-on-sound that describes some of these techniques when using sampled instruments for a symphonic arrangement.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar99/a ... hestra.htm