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Sonatina Strings for Kronos

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:26 pm
by burningbusch
Below is a sample-set based on the public domain Sonatina Orchestra. These use the same samples that Sharp posted a few weeks back. The difference is I limited the KSC to only string samples (and no round robin variations) in order to get the size down for people who only want strings. These were recorded in stereo so I brought the WAVs into the Kronos in stereo. The .KSC is 86MB in size. It includes sustain, staccato and pizzicato for 1st/2nd violin, viola (sustain and pizz only), cello and bass sections. There is also a solo violin.

I created multisamples based on each of the articulations listed above. In addition I created some hybrid ensemble multisamples. Ensemble1 consists of 1st violins and cellos. Ensemble 2 includes 2nd violin, violas and basses. There are sustain, staccato and pizzicato versions of these ensemble multisamples. This allows you to create larger sounding strings at the program level without the need to create a combi.

All the multisamples play within their normal lower limits. This allows you to place, for example, violins and violas in the same osc without the issue of violins playing out of their range.

Kronos Sonatina Strings Audio Examples

Download ZIP file

Here's a link to the Sonatina Symphonic Orchestra: http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net/

Program Listing

Sonatina Ensemble 1 : Program U-G000
Sonatina Ensemble Pizz : Program U-G001
Violins + Violas : Program U-G002
Violins + Violas + Celli: Program U-G003
Sonatina Violins + Celli: Program U-G004
1st + 2nd Violins Dyn : Program U-G005
1st + 2nd Violins : Program U-G006
1st Violins : Program U-G007
1st Violins Dyn : Program U-G008
1st Violins Stacc : Program U-G009
1st Violins Pizz : Program U-G010
2nd Violins : Program U-G011
2nd Violins Dyn : Program U-G012
2nd Violins Stacc : Program U-G013
2nd Violins Pizz : Program U-G014
Sonatina Solo Violin : Program U-G015
Violas : Program U-G016
Violas Pizz : Program U-G017
Cellos : Program U-G018
Cello Dyn : Program U-G019
Cello Stacc : Program U-G020
Cello Pizz : Program U-G021
Basses : Program U-G022
Basses Dyn : Program U-G023
Basses Stacc : Program U-G024
Basses Pizz : Program U-G025

Busch.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:31 pm
by jimknopf
Great stuff, useful size!

Thank you very much, Busch!

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:56 pm
by michelkeijzers
Thank you for sharing!

I made a nicer output below, hope you don't mind.
Feel free to copy it into your original post and I will remove it here.

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+------------------------+-----------+-----------+----------------+----------------+
|Patch Name              |Patch Type |Patch ID   |Category        |Sub Category    |
+------------------------+-----------+-----------+----------------+----------------+
|Sonatina Ensemble 1     |Program    |U-G000     |3               |0               |
|Sonatina Ensemble Pizz  |Program    |U-G001     |3               |0               |
|Violins + Violas        |Program    |U-G002     |3               |0               |
|Violins + Violas + Celli|Program    |U-G003     |3               |0               |
|Sonatina Violins + Celli|Program    |U-G004     |3               |0               |
|1st + 2nd Violins Dyn   |Program    |U-G005     |3               |0               |
|1st + 2nd Violins       |Program    |U-G006     |3               |0               |
|1st Violins             |Program    |U-G007     |3               |0               |
|1st Violins Dyn         |Program    |U-G008     |3               |0               |
|1st Violins Stacc       |Program    |U-G009     |3               |0               |
|1st Violins Pizz        |Program    |U-G010     |3               |0               |
|2nd Violins             |Program    |U-G011     |3               |0               |
|2nd Violins Dyn         |Program    |U-G012     |3               |0               |
|2nd Violins Stacc       |Program    |U-G013     |3               |0               |
|2nd Violins Pizz        |Program    |U-G014     |3               |0               |
|Sonatina Solo Violin    |Program    |U-G015     |3               |1               |
|Violas                  |Program    |U-G016     |3               |0               |
|Violas Pizz             |Program    |U-G017     |3               |0               |
|Cellos                  |Program    |U-G018     |3               |0               |
|Cello Dyn               |Program    |U-G019     |3               |0               |
|Cello Stacc             |Program    |U-G020     |3               |0               |
|Cello Pizz              |Program    |U-G021     |3               |0               |
|Basses                  |Program    |U-G022     |3               |0               |
|Basses Dyn              |Program    |U-G023     |3               |0               |
|Basses Stacc            |Program    |U-G024     |3               |0               |
|Basses Pizz             |Program    |U-G025     |3               |0               |
+------------------------+-----------+-----------+----------------+----------------+

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:04 pm
by burningbusch
Not sure how to copy it to my post Michel, so I'l leave it here.

Busch.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:27 am
by michelkeijzers
I sent a PM how to do it (don''t want to hijack this thread so I keep it short here).

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:44 am
by burningbusch
Someone had problems with the ZIP so here's a RAR just in case.

RAR Version

Busch.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:42 pm
by jimiki
Great work.. :D

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:58 pm
by levioter
Excellent Busch !
Great job !
Thanks for sharing ! :)

Regards.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:13 pm
by Sharp
See this post here....
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=69582

Same pool of samples, reworked, and new content....

Regards
Sharp.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:24 am
by DoubleM
Thank you for sharing your work, burningbusch.

I downloaded the zip file successfully. But now I´m wondering how to load the library to my brandnew Kronos. Have to say, I´m a newbie to the Korg/Kronos stuff, so please bear with my stupid question. I´m aware that I have to load both files to the Kronos, the pcg-file for Combis and programs and the ksc-file for samples. But the ksc-file only has 2 kb and there´s another folder in the download named “Sonatina_Strings”, containing the samples I guess.

Could someone please provide a step by step instruction how to properly load the sample-set to the Kronos? Thank you very much!!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:16 pm
by burningbusch
DoubleM,

It's pretty easy. I will assume you've copied the Sonatina-Strings folder to the SSD. It can be loaded from the USB-drive, but it's much faster from the SSD.

Goto DISK and click on the LOAD tab. Find the .KSC file and click LOAD.

You will be presented with a dialog box with options.

In the Select .KSC Allocation field select "Clear RAM."

You can load the PCG file from here as well by clicking on the check box at the top.

If you leave the "PCG Contents" field at the default setting of ALL, the PCG file WILL OVERWRITE anything you have in USER-G Program area. USER-G is the default bank where many programs will load because it is the only bank that's empty in the original Kronos.

If you would like to store the PCG file in a different user bank, change the "PCG Contents" field to BANK U-G and the "to:" field to the bank into which you want it loaded.

Here's the key: The PCG data will remain where ever you put it. When you power up the Kronos the next time, those string programs will be in that bank. The KSC file will not be loaded by default. You can manually load it,using the method above (no need to load the PCG a second time) or you can have it load every time your Kronos starts.

To do this goto GLOBAL and KSC AUTO-LOAD. Click on the ADD KSC. Find the SONATINA_STRING.KSC and select ADD. Make sure the RED BOX is selected. Now the .KSC will load every time.

Once. you've done this, the string programs and samples will be playable every time your Kronos starts up.

Busch.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:47 am
by DoubleM
Thank you for taking the time to help me out! :D
I´ll try it out as soon as I´m back in front of my Kronos...

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:54 pm
by jerrythek
The .zip file link at the blogspot has a typo in the url (htpp instead of http) which is why people are having trouble with it. Needs to be fixed.

Regards,

Jerry

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:03 pm
by burningbusch
Thanks Jerry,

fixed.

Busch.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:13 am
by DoubleM
burningbusch wrote:DoubleM,

It's pretty easy. I will assume you've copied the Sonatina-Strings folder to the SSD. It can be loaded from the USB-drive, but it's much faster from the SSD.

Goto DISK and click on the LOAD tab. Find the .KSC file and click LOAD.

You will be presented with a dialog box with options.

In the Select .KSC Allocation field select "Clear RAM."

You can load the PCG file from here as well by clicking on the check box at the top.

If you leave the "PCG Contents" field at the default setting of ALL, the PCG file WILL OVERWRITE anything you have in USER-G Program area. USER-G is the default bank where many programs will load because it is the only bank that's empty in the original Kronos.

If you would like to store the PCG file in a different user bank, change the "PCG Contents" field to BANK U-G and the "to:" field to the bank into which you want it loaded.

Here's the key: The PCG data will remain where ever you put it. When you power up the Kronos the next time, those string programs will be in that bank. The KSC file will not be loaded by default. You can manually load it,using the method above (no need to load the PCG a second time) or you can have it load every time your Kronos starts.

To do this goto GLOBAL and KSC AUTO-LOAD. Click on the ADD KSC. Find the SONATINA_STRING.KSC and select ADD. Make sure the RED BOX is selected. Now the .KSC will load every time.

Once. you've done this, the string programs and samples will be playable every time your Kronos starts up.

Busch.
Burningbusch,

I tried to copy the downloaded files in the Sonata-Strings folder on my usb-stick to the SSD, but failed a few times. Kronos always says: "Folder not found".

What am I doing wrong here?