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hammond kronos solo

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:43 pm
by stevelord
hi everybody who knows how i can do the wah slide at 1.10 min of this jon lord's solo???
how is the preset of this hammond for the our kronos?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBOmMlHOMkE&feature=fvst

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:59 pm
by ferchis
good one! I'd also like to know how to do it!

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:49 am
by roblof

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:57 am
by stevelord
That's what i'm talking about!!! Yeah!!

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:51 pm
by markn
Ok - real quick and rough tested idea:

Select your favourite Organ-Preset.
Route it through the wah-wah effect.
Modulate the Wah-Wah Effect with the ribbon.
Alternatively instead of using the ribbon you can assign the wah-modAMS to a foot pedal.

Learn how to play this. You have to synchronize your glissando on the keyboard with the ribbon slide. This is not easy.
I just ruined my right hand by trying this too intense on the Kronos88 wooden keyboard. :shock: :lol:

Here some pix of the settings:

http://music.nanz.de/download/img_319.jpg
http://music.nanz.de/download/img_320.jpg
http://music.nanz.de/download/img_321.jpg

Have fun!

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:03 pm
by stevelord
Good answer! Ahaha, to not ruin my hand i use a pair of fingerless gloves ! so when i do the glissato, with the other hand i have to control the ribbon?

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:36 pm
by markn
Exactly! :D

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:52 am
by jeremykeys
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markn
I just ruined my right hand by trying this too intense on the Kronos88 wooden keyboard. :shock: :lol:


Two summers ago a managed to ask Jordan Rudess how he deals with doing organ slides on his Oasys and he told me he beats up his hands every gig. I tend to play a lot of Hammond stuff on my K73 and I've just learned to be careful. In both of my bands I do a ton of organ playing and I've just somehow figured out how not to hurt myself. I just don't let my fingers anywhere near the weighted keys when I'm doing a palm smear and I don't press too hard. I only play intense when I need too. That tends to be most of the time by the way! Many many years ago in a moment of passion I ploughed all of the black keys off of my Crumar organ and proceeded to rip my hand apart on the slide back up. Blood everywhere! Hurt like hell but what a show!

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:54 am
by Phabius
New Kronos 76 with waterfall keys! Have you heard?

Suitable for organ and piano sounds, like the keys on the Nord Electro.
I would have bought one isntead of the K61 if it weighted like 14kg...

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:13 am
by stevelord

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:22 pm
by markn
jeremykeys wrote:
Two summers ago a managed to ask Jordan Rudess how he deals with doing organ slides on his Oasys and he told me he beats up his hands every gig. I tend to play a lot of Hammond stuff on my K73 and I've just learned to be careful. In both of my bands I do a ton of organ playing and I've just somehow figured out how not to hurt myself. I just don't let my fingers anywhere near the weighted keys when I'm doing a palm smear and I don't press too hard. I only play intense when I need too. That tends to be most of the time by the way! Many many years ago in a moment of passion I ploughed all of the black keys off of my Crumar organ and proceeded to rip my hand apart on the slide back up. Blood everywhere! Hurt like hell but what a show!
Would have been perfect for an Alice Cooper Show :lol:

Yeah, it´s really too bad...
I´ve been playing my Oasys76 for years and was unhappy with the keyboard when playing piano. Now with Kronos88 i can´t play Organ... but you can´t have it all.
My mistake with the slides is, in my early years i got used to do the slide up with the back of my hand and downwards with the palm. So i always mess up the back, rubbing the skin off. If i watch Jon Lord, he´s doing the slides with the palm of his hand in both directions. I´ve got to rehearse this and get used to it.
Meanwhile I´m using an M-Audio Axiom61 for the Organ parts in combination with Kronos, that´s pretty slick.

BTW A couple of years ago I had the chance to have a close look at JR´s setup.. He´s avoiding these slides as good as possible. He´s a very nice guy.

Here a couple of pix:

http://music.nanz.de/download/JR_Keys.jpg
http://music.nanz.de/download/JR_Mod.jpg (me in front of JR´s ModularSystem)
http://music.nanz.de/download/JR_O.jpg

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:28 pm
by markn
stevelord wrote:I use this gloves!!!

http://www.woolstore.com/catalog/images ... 0glove.gif
Michael Sadler of SAGA made them famous in the 80´s.
I´m using them when playing open air if it´s really cold, but they handicap me slightly.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:49 pm
by stevelord
markn wrote:
jeremykeys wrote:
Two summers ago a managed to ask Jordan Rudess how he deals with doing organ slides on his Oasys and he told me he beats up his hands every gig. I tend to play a lot of Hammond stuff on my K73 and I've just learned to be careful. In both of my bands I do a ton of organ playing and I've just somehow figured out how not to hurt myself. I just don't let my fingers anywhere near the weighted keys when I'm doing a palm smear and I don't press too hard. I only play intense when I need too. That tends to be most of the time by the way! Many many years ago in a moment of passion I ploughed all of the black keys off of my Crumar organ and proceeded to rip my hand apart on the slide back up. Blood everywhere! Hurt like hell but what a show!
Would have been perfect for an Alice Cooper Show :lol:

Yeah, it´s really too bad...
I´ve been playing my Oasys76 for years and was unhappy with the keyboard when playing piano. Now with Kronos88 i can´t play Organ... but you can´t have it all.
My mistake with the slides is, in my early years i got used to do the slide up with the back of my hand and downwards with the palm. So i always mess up the back, rubbing the skin off. If i watch Jon Lord, he´s doing the slides with the palm of his hand in both directions. I´ve got to rehearse this and get used to it.
Meanwhile I´m using an M-Audio Axiom61 for the Organ parts in combination with Kronos, that´s pretty slick.

BTW A couple of years ago I had the chance to have a close look at JR´s setup.. He´s avoiding these slides as good as possible. He´s a very nice guy.

Here a couple of pix:

http://music.nanz.de/download/JR_Keys.jpg
http://music.nanz.de/download/JR_Mod.jpg (me in front of JR´s ModularSystem)
http://music.nanz.de/download/JR_O.jpg

wow were did you take this photo?? :)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:28 pm
by markn
The photos were taken 21.10.2005 in Stuttgart/Germany when i was personally invited to a DT show. Really a special kind of highlight.