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Hi Guys,

Lets say I have an external sequencer sequencing the Kronos, using a Combi or the SEQ mode I can set up multiple patches on different midi channels, this I have working fine.

For the life of me though I cannot work out how to edit one of these patches while in this multi timbral mode. If I press patch it just cuts everything off and displays the last patch I had loaded in patch mode.

So really I want all channels to be playing while I edit a patch on one of the channels, is this possible somehow?

Thanks

Andy

No.

But you can edit a selection of parameters from each program with the knobs and sliders using Tone Adjust. Then those edits only apply to your song or combi and don't change the original patch.

You can also choose what those 16 parameters are, you aren't stuck with the defaults.

Of course, there is no GUI and not all parameters are available, but if you only want to make tweaks a d adjustments then it should be enough for most uses.

Hi,

Thanks very much for the reply.

That is probably why I couldn't work it out then!

So it is 16 parameters per combo spread out over all the channels/patches?

Cheers

Andy

BobTheDog wrote:Hi,

Thanks very much for the reply.

That is probably why I couldn't work it out then!

So it is 16 parameters per combo spread out over all the channels/patches?

Cheers

Andy

It is 16 parameters (I believe 16), per timbre in a combi. So you can have 16 parameters * 16 timbres = 256 parameters to be 'overridden' this way. You can use the sliders/knobs to control the parameters of 1 timbre (16 in total).

What you also can do is move to the program, change it and save it. It has both advantages and disadvantages:
advantages: when you improve a program, all combis using it will be 'improved' too
disadvantages: when you change a program, all combis usign it will change accordingly; while in program mode you cannot hear the complete combi.

great explanation! So this Combi mode should be the best of working with an external sequencer?

This 16 parameters per timbre can I control from the DAW, too - with CC message or .. ?

Is it possible to control more parameters from the DAW or "only" 16, too without changing the basis programm patch? Must the 16 from the DAW be the same 16 parameters from the Kronos knobs and sliders?

And how can I record knob changing from the Kronos to the DAW, perhaps a filter modulation which I twiddel on the Kronos with one of the faders ... record in my DAW?

clipnotic wrote:great explanation! So this Combi mode should be the best of working with an external sequencer?

This 16 parameters per timbre can I control from the DAW, too - with CC message or .. ?

Is it possible to control more parameters from the DAW or "only" 16, too without changing the basis programm patch? Must the 16 from the DAW be the same 16 parameters from the Kronos knobs and sliders?

And how can I record knob changing from the Kronos to the DAW, perhaps a filter modulation which I twiddel on the Kronos with one of the faders ... record in my DAW?

I think you can control these 16 sliders/knobs from a DAW, you cannot set all 16 x 16 parameters for all timbres afaik.

You cannot change other parameters, unless you program them into each needed program, e.g. you can change the program and set the modulation source to (almost?) any CC you want and then control it from your DAW. You cannot change parameters unless the modulation source is a CC source, or if set to a knob/control or other controller like joystick, aftertouch.

I don't know about DAW recording.

ok, thank you very much!

On my DAW I have 64 assignable and writeable virtual knobs per midi out track / per midi channel so I thought that I could create a big template with 16 midi tracks like that for the Kronos?

With this way it could be possible to adjust and record modulations of the 16 possible programs of a combination directly with the DAW! And if the knobs and faders from the Kronos are free assignable only for using as a midi controller, too, then it would be possible to control that virtual knobs with them only with midi learn or on my DAW for example with only a right mouse click .. so the Kronos could be a big 16 x and directly programable sound module and a fine hardware controller and masterkeyboard together!

So I mean it like creating 16 virtual DAW synth surfaces for programming the synths from the Kronos directly ... ? Only an idea but this could be a solution to program your sounds directly from the DAW with a big screen and without an extra editor and with midi plugins which still are available in the DAW!

I tried that today with my old Virus B hardware synthesizer and that works very good there with old midi connections In/Out !

But I don't understand how the Kronos works detailed like a multimbral synthesizer? And it has different synthesizers, too ...

OK, and I still not understand, too how it could work with this way to integrate Karma good, too ... ?