Will there be a new Kronos X Forum?

[rob314159]

This line of argument is entirely created by Korg. They have a different web page for the X, and they state how much better than the non-X it is. Its like the original Kronos isn't that capable of making music

There MAY be internal improvements, they certainly want you to think so. I really want to hear if the K-X is any different inside when they are released. Is a K-X the same as a K but more ram and HDD space? Posters who ought to know say so, but no one told the web maintainers...

B

I'm perplexed. When I visit the Korg USA site, the quote there is:

The Kronos music workstation was unveiled in 2011 to critical acclaim, and the raves of players around the world asking "what can possibly follow this?!" In the year since its inception, KORG has continued to release system updates and additional Kronos Sound Libraries, bringing the Kronos to an even higher level of performance.

The Kronos continues its evolution with the new Kronos X Music Workstation. With a boost to the internal memory and SSD size, the Kronos X is the ultimate workstation. Fittingly, its new name adds an "X" to indicate its expanded, and truly limitless potential.

It states the facts - an increase in RAM and increase in SSD space. Nothing more. They are advertising it as evolutionary, and rightfully so. I don't understand your argument that they want us to think there are internal improvements.

[hammondcuni]

Kevin Nolan you have a good case here. The X has to mean something.. I was at Guitar Center in Houston Tx 2 weeks ago trying to personally convince myself that the built was ok but wow was I turned off by the built. Wheel was broken, seemed pretty slow. I took my usb to load my samples and the Kronos froze!!! This Kronos was in pretty bad shape. I gig twice a week so my thought was "no way". I love Korg and knew they wouldnt let me down and I guess I was right (Kronos X). It has to be better in its build quality.


Korg M3 73,Triton Classic/ CF-Reader,MOX6, Casio XW-P1, Kawai K4,Kawai K3,Hammond B200(2)

[jahrome]

The only reason...in my very humble opinion....to have a Kronos X forum is ego. "My Kronos X is more superior out the factory than yours" syndrome. There is no other way to put it.

I guess we should have additional Kronos subforums. I have one of the first Kronos that left Korg' factory with the faulty data wheel. Some members here got Kronos with a modified data wheel. Those members with the superior wheel you have their own subforum.

[michelkeijzers]

Kevin Nolan you have a good case here. The X has to mean something.. I was at Guitar Center in Houston Tx 2 weeks ago trying to personally convince myself that the built was ok but wow was I turned off by the built. Wheel was broken, seemed pretty slow. I took my usb to load my samples and the Kronos froze!!! This Kronos was in pretty bad shape. I gig twice a week so my thought was "no way". I love Korg and knew they wouldnt let me down and I guess I was right (Kronos X). It has to be better in its build quality.


Korg M3 73,Triton Classic/ CF-Reader,MOX6, Casio XW-P1, Kawai K4,Kawai K3,Hammond B200(2)

Guess they haven't done anything to update it (for free). The dial problem is solved already long ago and they probably have OS1.0 or 1.1 installed.

Too bad, because people think now the Kronos is not good and actually, it's the best I had (even in build quality).

[dfahrner]

.. I was at Guitar Center in Houston Tx 2 weeks ago trying to personally convince myself that the built was ok but wow was I turned off by the built. Wheel was broken, seemed pretty slow. I took my usb to load my samples and the Kronos froze!!! This Kronos was in pretty bad shape...(Kronos X) has to be better in its build quality.

I sure wouldn't judge the build quality of the KRONOS by the condition of a GC floor demo unit, I can't imagine a tougher environment for a musical instrument...and loading from an unknown, non-KRONOS-formatted USB memory stick could very easily cause problems...I've had zero problems with my KRONOS(s) (other than having to replace those ^%$#@# noisy fans!) and have seen no build quality problems, either inside or exterior...

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[Francois]

Korg have made the differentiation and I think it's a strategic mistake not to respect Korg's call on that and create a separate forum...

I'm completely with Sharp on that one. The red X is purely a marketing thing. At the end of the day, both Kronos and Kronos X are the same machine with the same innards, only one has more RAM and larger SSD.

It's not like the Kronos X is to the Kronos what the V-Synth GT was to the V-Synth.

Secondly, did we get a special sub-forum for the expanded version of the M3 ? No. So why should the Kronos X get a dedicated subforum ?

Finally, my Kronos has 4 Gb of super-duper Corsair RAM (the one with the heat sink) and a 256 Gb SSD and a super quiet fan. I'm thinking of putting a blue Y after the Kronos logo, 'cause surely mine is even better than the red X model....

[Ultimate Dj]

This line of argument is entirely created by Korg. They have a different web page for the X, and they state how much better than the non-X it is. Its like the original Kronos isn't that capable of making music
B

^This to me is the most confusing. Why have two separate pages for the same machine?! You can select Kronos OR Kronos X as if its a new, separate workstation. Why not just put the X caption and all, on the Kronos page?
I'm confused. Its kinda frustrating.

AND they don't even have a link or MENTION of the X on the original Kronos page. Thats just retarded.

[jimknopf]

Guys you are all reading much too much into all that.

They have simply updated the Kronos specifications for good reason, in connection with a great new OS update and the possibility of massive use of sampled sounds.

Now they create some buzz for the Kronos X to attract future buyers, while keeping full access both to the hardware update and to the software update to present Kronos users. Can it get any better??? What's so hard to understand about all that?

To me that all makes perfect sense and I guess they have to wonder what's going on in our brains.

[Francois]

I agree with you Jim, but that's not the perceived opinion of the majority.

Yesterday, I was talking to a dealer who's had four Kronos returned to him by users who'd just bought a Kronos and took advantage of the retraction period to cancel their order. They obviously want to wait for the X version. That dealer was none too pleased, not to mention that who's going to want to buy the old Kronos he has in stock unless he reduces the selling price ?

If you read various forums, nto just KF, you'll see that there are far more comments that are negative than neutral or positive, from Kronos owners as well as just synth owners.

I'm not fussed because I know I've not been left behind, but by the same token, my opnion (just that, my opinion) is that Korg made a mistake calling it the Kronos X and putting added serigraphy.

Remember that marketing has a lot to do with perceived opinion.

[blinkofanI]

I don't remember Sharp ever creating a Trinity V3 sub forum when the product appeared.

I don't remember Sharp ever creating a M3 XPanded sub forum when the product appreared.

I don't remember if Korg Forums existed when WavestationEX appeared.

It's the same product with updated parts. What's the deal here?

Blink

[Sharp]

he..he.. 5 pages in and still going strong....
It's simply not going to happen. As I said a while back, there will be no separate section for the KRONOS X.

Regards
Sharp.

[Ultimate Dj]

he..he.. 5 pages in and still going strong....

You find this entertaining don't you?? People talking about something as if its an option and your sitting back laughing cause its really not!

[StephenKay]

I haven't read all of this thread, but I can say:

Making a new forum for a minor variation of the Kronos would be.....<insert favorite phrase for dumbness here>

This is not a new keyboard, it's an OS update with a marketing tie-in.

Considering that most people here will update to OS 2.0, there isn't a single question that will be asked about a Kronos X that doesn't equally apply to a Kronos. Sharp is entirely correct, and that should be the end of the discussion.