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Just finished the first tests, and i'm stunned. Absolutely great work Korg!

I've took some ambient Akai sample Cd's from my collection and converted those to SF2 format. Loaded these in the Sample editor from the kronos and saved them following the guidelines in the manual.
Then i reloaded them as stated in the manual and started to create new wave sequences with them and replaced a couple of my existing ambient presets with the new 'streaming' wavesequences.

Then i set the loaded files to autoload in virtual memory and all these files took only 3 MB memory

Then i rebooted the Kronos and checked if everything still worked and it did

I'm really excited over here. The long wave sequences i have running at the moment which only takes 3 MB memory, i hardly can't believe that Korg have created this possibility.

What a wall of sound i can create now, i have long textures crossfading into eachother, vector automation over them and all kind of AMS sources and it all works without a hickup. Incredible

I still have to do a lot of tests with merging an combining several samplesets to see what's the best way of deploying these sets into wave sequences and programs for others. But the first tests i've done are opening lots of exciting new possibilities for sounddesign.

Time for another tutorial

QuiRobinez wrote: What a wall of sound i can create now, i have long textures crossfading into eachother, vector automation over them and all kind of AMS sources and it all works without a hickup. Incredible

I still have to do a lot of tests with merging an combining several samplesets to see what's the best way of deploying these sets into wave sequences and programs for others. But the first tests i've done are opening lots of exciting new possibilities for sounddesign.

Glad to hear it!

Time for another tutorial

+1

The endlessness of possibilities is increasing

So interesting.

Wish I could something useful other than your energy is incredible.

Look forward to seeing anything regarding this as a tutorial.

I'm messing with this too. Its really impressive. The ultimate extension of the Wavestation concept. Sort of the WS AD idea, but with internal, rather than external user sounds, and oodles of modulation and sound mangling options. My wheels are turning like never before!!!

RonF wrote:I'm messing with this too. Its really impressive. The ultimate extension of the Wavestation concept. Sort of the WS AD idea, but with internal, rather than external user sounds, and oodles of modulation and sound mangling options. My wheels are turning like never before!!!

absolutely,

yesterday i've spent 2 hours on a new patch. First i created a new tempo based wave sequence based on more then 50 seconds of crossfading new samples (streaming) and added a vector automation pattern on it. Then i doubled that in combi mode with a new MS-20 program that added random LFO bleeps with the self ossilating filters on top of that.

It was noodle heaven, i let it run for more that a half hour while doing other things in the studio, and due to the long evolving wave sequences and the Random bleeps the sound it produced was everytime different.

It's hard to explain to other musicians that are unfamiliar with these kind of concepts but Korg is as far as i know the only Hardware solution that makes these kind of things possible. This goes way beyond standard modulation matrix setups.

Now i only have one wish left for OS 2.1
I would love to have a screen where i could see every AMS assignment beneath eachother. The AMS modulation matrix can be setup so complex that it's hard to keep track what i did assign before. So an overview screen (just display only) would be a great help in the future

QuiRobinez wrote: Now i only have one wish left for OS 2.1
I would love to have a screen where i could see every AMS assignment beneath eachother. The AMS modulation matrix can be setup so complex that it's hard to keep track what i did assign before. So an overview screen (just display only) would be a great help in the future

You are not alone!

BobTheDog wrote:

QuiRobinez wrote: Now i only have one wish left for OS 2.1
I would love to have a screen where i could see every AMS assignment beneath eachother. The AMS modulation matrix can be setup so complex that it's hard to keep track what i did assign before. So an overview screen (just display only) would be a great help in the future

You are not alone!

It's also on the wish list of PCG Tools, however it will be quite a major job, because there are so many modulation parameters and they are also different per EXI engine AND also different between different workstation models.

QuiRobinez wrote: It's hard to explain to other musicians that are unfamiliar with these kind of concepts but Korg is as far as i know the only Hardware solution that makes these kind of things possible. This goes way beyond standard modulation matrix setups.

What you have there is a self generating patch....akin to what you might create on a modular synthesis system. I have ONE hardware synth in my studio which competes with the Kronos for self generating modulation possibilities:






Kronos rules! It truly is a semi modular toolkit of epic proportions!

RonF wrote:

QuiRobinez wrote: It's hard to explain to other musicians that are unfamiliar with these kind of concepts but Korg is as far as i know the only Hardware solution that makes these kind of things possible. This goes way beyond standard modulation matrix setups.

What you have there is a self generating patch....akin to what you might create on a modular synthesis system. I have ONE hardware synth in my studio which competes with the Kronos for self generating modulation possibilities:






Kronos rules! It truly is a semi modular toolkit of epic proportions!

Ummmmmm.......................yeah....maaaan.

Wow.

Furthering the thought... A wavesequence, especially one as Qui describes with longer complex waveforms crossfaded into one another constituting an evolving wave-shape , is nothing less than a "wavetable"....as in: wavetable synthesis (think Waldorf Microwave XT, or Access Virus TI). The difference: these Kronos wavetables, now with Kronos 2.0, are fully user editable on the hardware, and the waveforms themselves can be sourced from endless user banks (streamed from an SSD none the less!). These "wavetables" can be created with or without "interpolation" (crossfades, for simplicity sake). And within the overall expansive synthesis architecture of the Kronos they can be exploited in the same ways that Waldorf reserved for its highest end (and now classic and ubiquitous) synths....but can even go further, into territory beyond what that technology ever allowed.

As it turns out, wavetable synthesis has grown to become perhaps my favorite form of synthesis....its the most expressive, and responds in wild and fascinating ways to complex modulations. And now, with user sample banks, Kronos has allowed a high end hardware solution to become one of the most editable and creative examples of a wavetable synthesizer in history.

Wavesequencing, a la "WaveStation style", due to the limitations of the technology in the 90's, was mostly recognized as a "boom chick tick tack bump thump" sort of thing (think the FireDance preset on the original Wavestation keyboard). Now....you look at Kronos wavesequencing and its something else altogether. It really is, in itself, a cutting edge form of wavetable synthesis. In many ways, I view it as a 10th synthesis engine within the Kronos system.

Btw....I have a Waldorf MWXT, a Waldorf Q, and a Blofeld. I absolutely LOVE those synths. But they have taught me their limitations too (which is not always a bad thing, btw). Often while programming those, have I thought about what it would mean to have fully user editable wavetables from my own sample collections, and then to modulate those wavetables with the likes of vector envelopes or KARMA or multi operator FM. Kronos makes this happen and so much more! Its quite amazing when you think about its depths.

I'm just sayin!

Here's a more current Pic of the Kronos' lair: