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I’m writing this post wondering if some of you could help me solve a problem I’m dealing with and can’t solve by myself.

This is the scenario:

• I own a Kronos and a Triton keyboard. They are connected trough a midi cable.
• I use them to play live and use mostly the COMBI mode.
• I use the triton to control the Kronos. In Kronos, I create/edit combinations and set the midi channel of each program, allowing me to play some of the programs with my triton’s keyboard and others with Kronos own keyboard. However, only the KRONOS sounds are used.
• As so, only the KRONOS needs áudio cables since all sounds, even those played in triton, come from it.

What I want to do:

I would like to edit/create combinations (In KRONOS) that could use some triton sounds. For exemple:

Timbre 1: IntC038
Timbre 2: IntB023
Timbre 3: A Triton program (let’s say… K041)
Timbre 4: …

Is that possible? I have tryed several things with no luck! For timbre 3 I tryed to select both EXT and EXT2 under the midi settings, tryed all possible midi channels but didn’t succeed.
Any help would be very apreciated.

Salomao

If I were doing this, this is how I'd proceed.

Midi OUT on the KRONOS to IN on the Triton.

Then put the Triton into SEQ mode. From there the KRONOS should be able to send all the necessary Program Change commands to the different tracks effortlessly by default.

The Track Status on the KRONOS (BOTH INT EXT EXT2) can then be switched whatever way you want to achieve what you want.

Regards
Sharp.

Sharp wrote:If I were doing this, this is how I'd proceed.

Midi OUT on the KRONOS to IN on the Triton.

Then put the Triton into SEQ mode. From there the KRONOS should be able to send all the necessary Program Change commands to the different tracks effortlessly by default.

The Track Status on the KRONOS (BOTH INT EXT EXT2) can then be switched whatever way you want to achieve what you want.

Regards
Sharp.

Just in case verify there is no midi filters blocking note / on-off incoming msgs in Triton

Also, perhaps obvious, but the Triton will also need to have audio cables connected in that case. The audio signal cannot be transmitted through the midi cable.

Out of interest, which are these sounds that you specifically need from the Triton? Unless you're using the MOSS board, I'm pretty sure you could replicate the sounds you need on your Kronos, with a little effort.

I still can’t do it…
Let’s see if I did understand you right:

Kronos in Combi mode
Triton in sequencer mode
Midi OUT on the KRONOS to IN on the Triton (what midi configurations – channel and so on - should i choose, in GLOBAL settings, both in Kronos and Triton?)
Now, in a blank Combi, I want the left half of my kronos keyboard to play an internal program (that’s easy) and the right hand to play a triton sound (for exemple triton’s K041).
Please tell me, step by step, every configuration I have to set so that this can be possible.

Thank you in advance for your help

SanderXpander wrote:Also, perhaps obvious, but the Triton will also need to have audio cables connected in that case. The audio signal cannot be transmitted through the midi cable.

Out of interest, which are these sounds that you specifically need from the Triton? Unless you're using the MOSS board, I'm pretty sure you could replicate the sounds you need on your Kronos, with a little effort.

I Have the MOSS board . Anyhow, there are a few sounds in Triton I can't find (not even close) on KRONOS. For exemple, the sound I refered before (K041 Octave Brass Expression)

Think in following manner: master & slave.

Triton is going to play the sequence internally and to Kronos ? then Triton is master, Kronos is the slave.

Then, MIDI OUT from Triton shall be pluged into MIDI IN into Kronos.
Then, in sequencer mode into Triton, you must specify both, ext1 or ext2.

Triton must be in song mode
Kronos must be in combi mode or song mode.
In any case, a quick look into manual will solve your doubts
Regards,
Neomad

neomad wrote:Think in following manner: master & slave.

Triton is going to play the sequence internally and to Kronos ? then Triton is master, Kronos is the slave.

Then, MIDI OUT from Triton shall be pluged into MIDI IN into Kronos.
Then, in sequencer mode into Triton, you must specify both, ext1 or ext2.

Triton must be in song mode
Kronos must be in combi mode or song mode.
In any case, a quick look into manual will solve your doubts
Regards,
Neomad

That's very different and the connection would be backwards to what he needs.

He wants COMBI sounds on the KRONOS to access Triton sounds, so my suggestion of using SEQ mode on the Triton is so he can use the Triton as a 16 part multitimbral sound source.

Since KRONOS has 16 part COMBI sounds, then SEQ mode on the Triton is the best to use. Triton's COMBI mode has only 8 porgarms, so it would only limit him for no reason.

Regards
Sharp.

Sharp wrote:

neomad wrote:Think in following manner: master & slave.

Triton is going to play the sequence internally and to Kronos ? then Triton is master, Kronos is the slave.

Then, MIDI OUT from Triton shall be pluged into MIDI IN into Kronos.
Then, in sequencer mode into Triton, you must specify both, ext1 or ext2.

Triton must be in song mode
Kronos must be in combi mode or song mode.
In any case, a quick look into manual will solve your doubts
Regards,
Neomad

That's very different and the connection would be backwards to what he needs.

He wants COMBI sounds on the KRONOS to access Triton sounds, so my suggestion of using SEQ mode on the Triton is so he can use the Triton as a 16 part multitimbral sound source.

Since KRONOS has 16 part COMBI sounds, then SEQ mode on the Triton is the best to use. Triton's COMBI mode has only 8 porgarms, so it would only limit him for no reason.

Regards
Sharp.

Sorry, I wasn't aware of combi in triton has only 8 programs.

salomao wrote:I still can’t do it…
Let’s see if I did understand you right:

Kronos in Combi mode
Triton in sequencer mode
Midi OUT on the KRONOS to IN on the Triton (what midi configurations – channel and so on - should i choose, in GLOBAL settings, both in Kronos and Triton?)
Now, in a blank Combi, I want the left half of my kronos keyboard to play an internal program (that’s easy) and the right hand to play a triton sound (for exemple triton’s K041).
Please tell me, step by step, every configuration I have to set so that this can be possible.

Thank you in advance for your help

Your understating of this is correct.

(what midi configurations – channel and so on - should i choose, in GLOBAL settings, both in Kronos and Triton?)

Leave them on the factory default Global Channel 1. The COMBI of the KRONOS and SEQ of the Triton are were you configure everything.

To test you have a working midi setup and that there is not something else entirly different wrong, please put both the KRONOS and Triton in Seq mode and see if you can get the Trition to produce a sound when you play the KRONOS keys.

The Track Status on the KRONOS will need to be set to BOTH or EXT for this to work.

Regards
Sharp

Thank you guys, I think I did it!!!

Thank you a lot.

Good man...

Happy KORG'ing.

Regards
Sharp.