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Just bought a padkontrol for the kronos today, I instantly love it.

I have been looking around for info on these two in combination and haven't found much other than some pretty basic videos on YouTube.

I'm wondering what others have found about using them in tandem.

What are the functions if the xy pad in different circumstances, why can I only do rolls and flam on some drum program's using just the snare?

Do any buttons other than the pads, roll, hold and flam do anything when connected to the kronos?

dcer10 wrote:Just bought a padkontrol for the kronos today, I instantly love it.

I have been looking around for info on these two in combination and haven't found much other than some pretty basic videos on YouTube.

I'm wondering what others have found about using them in tandem.

What are the functions if the xy pad in different circumstances, why can I only do rolls and flam on some drum program's using just the snare?

Do any buttons other than the pads, roll, hold and flam do anything when connected to the kronos?

Hi dcer10,

The roll/flam functions are programmed by default to only work on a few pads. You can change this on the padKONTROL itself... While adjusting settings, hold down the ROLL or FLAM button, and light up the pads you want to enable. Make sure to save your settings afterwards.

The X/Y pad (and knobs, and pads) can send just about any MIDI CC function you'd like. With a combination of settings both in the padKONTROL and Kronos, you'll find you're able to do lots of things at once.

Hope this helps,
-Rich

Hello, just a 'rookie' question:

I would like to understand how 'Flam & Roll' button works with Kronos (and any other controlled device, of course)

Please, would you mind explain it simple?

Thank you in advance

Just to be clear, there are 2 ways to connect the kronos and padkontrol

1) directly into the kronos via the USB port you can connect a USB drive or network adapter to
2) via another host (ie computer or similar) via the normal USB connector

My question was related to 1) when the kronos and padkontrol are being used without the need for another host. It seems that the pad setup is related to the program settings on the kronos, but to what detail per program I do not know. I would have assumed the padkontrol was setup to perform generic tasks related to the program on the kronos when used this way.

If doing 2) you can use the padkontrol as you would use any controller, and will most likely need to program the pad kontrol to do more specific tasks.

Does anyone know, when using the PadKontrol attached directly to the Kronos, how can I record the pad presses in Ableton live? When I press the pads I'm not seeing any midi input into live, but when I press the kronos keys I do see midi input into live.

I'm wondering if its worth just connecting the padkontrol via USB to the computer, is it easy to get the pads working with chords etc as nicely and easily via the computer as it is via the kronos or will I loose some kind of 'mapping' via the direct connection to the Kronos?

dcer10 wrote:Does anyone know, when using the PadKontrol attached directly to the Kronos, how can I record the pad presses in Ableton live? When I press the pads I'm not seeing any midi input into live, but when I press the kronos keys I do see midi input into live.

It depends what button pushes you are trying to record of the PadKontrol/Kronos into Live. Some of Kronos controllers use Sysex, for example the Drum Track switch. What controllers are you having trouble with?
If they are Sysex messages, Live does not record Sysex. If they are CCs then you may not have PK/Live properly configured?

Im not sure what was being actually sent, I had the PadKrontrol plugged directly into the Kronos via USB and I was trying to play the pads and drums. I could hear them trigger, but they did not make it to ableton live as midi messages. The normal keyboard playing on the kronos did come through to live to be recorded.

I have decided to experiment a bit and have plugged the PadKontrol directly into the mac now. It seems quite useful with the editor and being able to use it with more instruments.

Im wondering, how can I replicate what the PadKontrol was doing on the kronos (ie playing pads and or drums depending on which program you use). Im happy to change scenes, are any of the 'preset' scenes the same as the settings offered when plugged directly into the Kronos? Will I need to set up the pads via cc's in the global page in Kronos to do this?

If none of the preset scenes will do this, is there somewhere showing the controller layout of the PadKontrol when used directly with the kronos so I can copy it? I'd imagine there would be at least 2 scenes that would need to be made (1 pads & drums, 1 all drums, or are there more different scenes from the kronos I have not found yet??)

The PadKontrol is a great device, really enjoying it. Thanks Korg!

Guys.

I posted this video two months ago - check it out.

You connect the padKontrol to the Kronos THREE ways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... jnyI_mM27k

Enjoy.

Great video!

Lou wrote:

dcer10 wrote:Does anyone know, when using the PadKontrol attached directly to the Kronos, how can I record the pad presses in Ableton live? When I press the pads I'm not seeing any midi input into live, but when I press the kronos keys I do see midi input into live.

It depends what button pushes you are trying to record of the PadKontrol/Kronos into Live. Some of Kronos controllers use Sysex, for example the Drum Track switch. What controllers are you having trouble with?
If they are Sysex messages, Live does not record Sysex. If they are CCs then you may not have PK/Live properly configured?

The main ones Im having issues with recording into live while the PadKontrol is plugged directly into the Kronos via USB are the drums. I can see the pad chords come in, but not the drums which I would like to record midi clips of in live.

A different problem is that if I set a cc number of 74 to Knob 1 (or 2) I would expect that it would change the cutoff filter on the kronos as the cutoff filter knob does, but this does not work.

dcer10 wrote: The main ones Im having issues with recording into live while the PadKontrol is plugged directly into the Kronos via USB are the drums. I can see the pad chords come in, but not the drums which I would like to record midi clips of in live.

As I said in my video very clearly - it will NOT work that way with the USB going into the KRONOS - you have to use the midi out of the padKontrol - into the Kronos, then the midi THRU from the Kronos into your computer - it's the only way right now.

Using the midi cable is not really what I want as the advantage of the direct USB connection is lost ie the immediate mapping of the pad chords and drums without needing to do any custom editing of the padkontrol.

Its odd that the notes from the chord pads do send, while the notes from the drums do not.

dcer10 wrote:Using the midi cable is not really what I want as the advantage of the direct USB connection is lost ie the immediate mapping of the pad chords and drums without needing to do any custom editing of the padkontrol.

Its odd that the notes from the chord pads do send, while the notes from the drums do not.

Again, until they make a change in either device's firmware, it's the only way it will work successfully.

Midi is midi anyway, so you are not losing anything if you use a midi cable.

dcer10 wrote:
Its odd that the notes from the chord pads do send, while the notes from the drums do not.

dcer10

You can use USB and record the Pads.. "Drum hits"

This is accomplished by choosing a Drum Program and using the Auto Record setup (Enter/Record/Write) to bring the drum program into the Sequencer. (Local Control On in Kronos and Live's channel strip set to Off)
On the Track/Parameters page set the Track Status to "Both" for the drums which will most likely be channel one. In Live on channel One you can now enter your Pad hits. I'm using a NanoPad to test this and it works beautifully via USB.

You will also have a Drum Track on Channel 10, if you change this to "Both" also you will be able to record the drum track to channel 10 in Live..
(All individual notes will be put to track) "The Drum Track Pattern will be recorded."