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XVP-10 and Kronos - uneven response from pedal

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:47 pm
by Lando
Are any of you guys using Korg XVP-10 with Kronos? After using it to control layered strings (among other things) for a couple of months I still can't get the dynamics right, and I'm wondering if some setting in the Kronos is wrong or the pedal defect.

I get a very fast response in the lowest range of the pedal and then very little in the last half. I haven't measured, but to me it feels like I get Midi 1-100 in the lowest 1/3 of the pedal. This makes it very hard to be precise with the dynamics. I can work with it, but it is extremely much easier with my Nord and Yamaha where I get an even response throughout the whole range of the pedal.

Anyone experienced anything similar or have any idea what the issue can be?

Kind regards.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:34 am
by Scatter
The issue is the taper of the potentiometer inside the pedal. I fixed this on my pedal by replacing it with a linear pot modified with conductive ink. The sweep was unusable before the mod imo.

I'd look into some kind of optical-based pedal, don't keep up with gear so I can't recommend anything in particular sorry.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:46 am
by SanderXpander
The Yamaha FC7 has always been excellent to me on Korg boards.
It works on Nord too so you'd have a backup. Have you tried your Nord pedal on the Kronos?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:29 pm
by Lando
Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately my FC7 doesn't speak with the Kronos for some reason and neither does my Roland pedal so I honestly don't know how to solve this. Wish I could replace the potentiometer myself, but I suck at fixing things...

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:34 pm
by Lando
Bumpetybump.

Is anyone using an expression pedal with Kronos and getting it to work properly?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:54 am
by SanderXpander
Is your FC7 working on your other boards? If so, it seems the pedal input on your Kronos might be broken.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:51 pm
by Lando
Unfortunately the FC7 doesn't work with Kronos, apparently didn't work with Oasys either?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:03 pm
by .Jens
My 2 cents: Yes, I am working with expression pedals on a regular basis, and they work fine (in my case: a Korg EXP-2, and a Boss FV500L - the latter needing a crossover cable to work properly).

If there is uneven response from the pedal, a first thing to check is if the pinout matches the requirements of the Kronos. This should, however, be consistent within a manufacturer's line, so I'm a little confused that the Korg XVP-10 doesn't work.

Yamaha and Roland/Boss are known to have a different pin assignment than Korg, so a crossover cable, where tip and ring are swapped on one end should help (in my case it did). Without a crossover cable, my Boss pedal does actually work, but only with a very uneven response (almost the whole range of possible controller values are stuffed into the first third or so of the mechanical throw) - but with the proper cable, it at least "feels" quite linear.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:43 pm
by SanderXpander
Umm Roland does have a different pin assignment (or operating voltage/restistance range), but I've been using the Yamaha FC7 since my original red Karma with Korg products. Has worked excellently on my Karma, Triton, Triton Extreme and now Kronos.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:02 pm
by .Jens
I have to admit that I am not 100% sure regarding Yamaha. If it doesn't work at all, there is likely a defect. If it just responds uneven, this can normally be fixed with the crossover I mentioned.

Sander, did you try a crossover cable? Maybe your Yamaha pedal can work even better than it does already ;)

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:37 pm
by SanderXpander
I get full range support with a smooth curve. It can't really work any better than it does at the moment. I honestly never liked the Korg or Roland branded pedals. I have a Roland because it's the only one that works with Roland gear (and my Hammond XB1). But I've always used Yamaha for my Yamaha, Korg and Nord stuff.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:15 pm
by .Jens
Well, OK - thanks for the info maybe I was confusing this with the two main "groups" of manufacturers when it comes to the "polarity" (NC vs. NO) of sustain pedals. At least for Boss/Roland the pin assignment differs, and I know there are a few more.

I am wondering, if the OP has the same problem with a swapped pin assignment, even if the pedal is from Korg? The symptoms are exactly the same as with my Boss pedal - and I really doubt that it's due to a logarithmic pot in this case. Would make no sense when Korg puts a log pot in their top-of-the-line pedal, if their flagship expects a linear one.

Maybe the OP uses a crossover cable inadvertedly, without the need to do so...

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:44 pm
by ronnfigg
I use a Yamaha FC7 also, since my Triton days, and it has always worked fine.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:51 pm
by danatkorg
Lando wrote:Unfortunately the FC7 doesn't work with Kronos, apparently didn't work with Oasys either?
I've used both the Korg EXP-2 and the Yamaha FC7 with both the KRONOS and the OASYS. Both work perfectly. If you continue to have difficulties, I'd suggest contacting your Korg Distributor (see the link in my signature); often talking with someone in real-time will help to reach a solution quickly.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:27 pm
by .Jens
Lando, did you check you are using the correct outputs and cables?

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=77351 - same problem here.

With the XVP-10, you should be able to use either of the expression/outputs, though.